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why all the moved threads

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
So why move all of the threads in the snowboard forum?

while on larger forums, I support categorizing things, this forum (the snowboarding section) does not have enough traffic at this point to warrant breaking it up...

Personally, I would prefer to just have to look at one page...

my $.02
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post #3 of 28
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Originally Posted by SirMack View Post
this forum (the snowboarding section) does not have enough traffic at this point to warrant breaking it up
Agreed.
post #4 of 28
So why is the Drills thread still in this (General Snowboard Discussions) forum and not in techniques?

What would be an example of an on-topic post in this forum?
post #5 of 28
Perhaps because I didn't find all of them and/or categorize them correctly.

We are anticipating and looking forward to increased traffic in the snowboard forums, and had created the additional snowboard forums at the time we created this General forum. Given the traffic here and the start of the northern hemisphere season upcoming, it seemed a good time to make the shift to the more specific forums. We trust that the shift will be useful over time, and allow for active threads to be available on the first page of the forums longer.
post #6 of 28
My apologies gentlemen. As one of the more active posters here, I got solicited for an opinion and recruited to the moderator/patrol team. In my own personal bias to get riding elevated to the same status as two planking (I focus on technique issues), I voted for splitting the forums. There's a definite trade off between ease of accessing everything in one forum vs ease of accessing by subtopic. Although we were already up to 3 pages of threads and things should be heating up even more in a month or two, there definitely is less volume here than for alpine topics. In hindsight, it would have been nicer to ask for more public input before switching. My hope is that splitting the forums out is inevitable, but the beauty is that this kind of change is easily undone (if I understand the moderator functions correctly). We've got a week of transition, before the change is permanent. I'm here to serve the community. If the consensus is to keep all riding posts in one forum, we should be able to accommodate you.
post #7 of 28
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I for one just know that I am less likely to check multiple forums. I don't really get into gear tech talk,but will offer an opinion if I see something that inspires me.

I agreee that we will see more action, and hope the split is inevitable, I just am selfish about my posting/reading/habits....
post #8 of 28
Moving them back is much easier than splitting them out. However, keep in mind things like being able to search (and limiting searching to a specific forum) as these forums grow. That's the real advantage to dividing it out. Also, in our experience with the ski forums, we have found that certain cross-sections of the members gravitate to particular parts of the forum, and so the quality of responses tends to go up.

I trust that this is just a bit of a change challenge. We can "undo" it at any time (there's no deadline for it). The redirects will go away in a week and at that point this forum will look much cleaner.
post #9 of 28
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My apologies gentlemen.
No apologies necessary. It's not like you skied across the tail of my board or anything like that.

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In my own personal bias to get riding elevated to the same status as two planking (I focus on technique issues), I voted for splitting the forums. <...> In hindsight, it would have been nicer to ask for more public input before switching.
I used to be a moderator at another (completely unrelated to snow sports) web forum, so I understand not being able to please everyone, the many reasons for administrators making decisions without endless public discussion, etc.

The principle that worked well there was "no dead forums." New forums generally got created only when there was, over time, some critical mass of threads on a given topic that it made sense to divide things out.

What I see here is perhaps intended to be "build it and they will come." (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Has this approach worked successfully before for EpicSki? I, of course, haven't been here long enough or particpated enough to get any sense of that.

With the division into multiple forums, are moderators accepting the ongoing burden of shuffling around posts?

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My hope is that splitting the forums out is inevitable.
I can see that. But with this forum getting no more than a few posts a day, is this the right time?

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<...> to get riding elevated to the same status as two planking <...>
Maybe instead of tucking "General Snowboard Discussions" under "General Forums" and "Snowboard Technique & Instruction" under "Ski Training Forums" and "Snowboard Gear Discussion" under "Ski Gear Forums," consider creating a new, snowboard-specific rubric and put the divided-out forums there. That way, snowboard-specific conversation is findable as a clump.
post #10 of 28
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Moving them back is much easier than splitting them out. However, keep in mind things like being able to search (and limiting searching to a specific forum) as these forums grow. That's the real advantage to dividing it out.
Does your forum software track how people use the search features? Do you find that people tend to do forum-specific searches?
post #11 of 28
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The principle that worked well there was "no dead forums." New forums generally got created only when there was, over time, some critical mass of threads on a given topic that it made sense to divide things out.
That was what SSH and I were thinking, that we had achieved enough critical mass to do this.

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What I see here is perhaps intended to be "build it and they will come." (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Has this approach worked successfully before for EpicSki?
That's what happened with the start of the general board forum. I specifically fed it technique issues to draw other pros into the discussion.

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With the division into multiple forums, are moderators accepting the ongoing burden of shuffling around posts?
That is the reason I was recruited to the "patrol" team. This is my primary patrol responsibility.

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I can see that. But with this forum getting no more than a few posts a day, is this the right time?
The longer we wait, the more work it will be to split. As SSH says, if it does not work out, it's easy to undo.

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Maybe instead of tucking "General Snowboard Discussions" under "General Forums" and "Snowboard Technique & Instruction" under "Ski Training Forums" and "Snowboard Gear Discussion" under "Ski Gear Forums," consider creating a new, snowboard-specific rubric and put the divided-out forums there. That way, snowboard-specific conversation is findable as a clump.
Thank you for this great suggestion. I will work to get it implemented.
post #12 of 28

For your consideration...

I appreciate the addition of snowboard sections to Epic, and am confident that the newly split sections will see increased traffic as the season commences.

To help folks navigate and to appeal to core boarders I think it would be a good idea to rename the section groupings to "Ski and Snowboard Training Forums" and "Ski and Snowboard Gear Forums".




Mi dos centavos.
B-2
post #13 of 28
Thread Starter 
how about this...

Put all of the snowboard forums in a snowboard section. hell we could even have a snowboard humor section:

How do you get the snowboarder off of the front porch?


(pay for the pizza)
post #14 of 28
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how about this...

Put all of the snowboard forums in a snowboard section. hell we could even have a snowboard humor section:

How do you get the snowboarder off of the front porch?


(pay for the pizza)
There could be a whole section of snowboard specific humor too.
post #15 of 28
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(pay for the pizza)
"Elevate" the sport through self-deprecation. Interesting approach. Think it'll work?

How about further subdividing --

Snowboard Humor: Snowboarders Bashing Themselves
Snowboard Humor: Open Invitation for Potshots from Everyone
Snowboard Humor: Is There Anything Really to Discuss Because Isn't It Just So Funny To Begin With
Catskills-Inspired Snowboard Humor: We've Heard Every Joke Already, So Just Call Out the Number and We'll All Laugh (Though a Little Bit of Me Inside Will Die Each Time)

Should Meet-On-The-Hill Planning go this way?

Meet-On-The-Hill Planning: Skiers Only
Meet-On-The-Hill Planning: Skier's Only (For the Skiers Who Don't Know How To Spell Any Skiing-Related Word Other Than "Ski")
Meet-On-The-Hill Planning: Skiers Who Would Tolerate the Presence of a Snowboarder In Their Company But Would Make Disparaging Remarks Behind Their Back
Meet-On-The-Hill Planning: Skiers Who Would Tolerate the Presence of a Snowboarder In Their Company But Would Ask Awkward Questions about the Sport, Based on a Whole Slew of False Assumptions
Meet-On-The-Hill Planning: Fun People Only
post #16 of 28
Wow. I just reread my post immediately above. That came off a lot snarkier than I had intended. Sorry about that. Let's let it stand as is, and I'll be mindful of tone issues in future posts here.
post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 
If you can't make fun of yourself...who can you make fun of? I can make fun of skiers too:

How many PSIA instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

10. One to change the bulb and 9 to stand in a line, clap and say "Nice Turns"

I'm sure thats no way to elevate others opinions of us either. But then, Is a message truly the place to worry about such things? I think it far more important to distinguish ourselves on the hill...

(and apology accepted...I do see your point...Obiously the only snowboarders inthe on hill meetings would be in group 6...)
post #18 of 28
How many snowboarders does it take to change a lightbulb? 5. 1 to change it, 1 to video the change, and three to kneel up hill and yell, "YeAHHH!"
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 
how many PSIA examiners does it take to change a bulb?

1. He holds the bulb and the world revolves around him...
post #20 of 28
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How many PSIA instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

10. One to change the bulb and 9 to stand in a line, clap and say "Nice Turns"

Ski instructors don't screw in lightbulbs - they screw in hot tubs.
post #21 of 28
Since WE are using humor in the interest of elevating snowboarding, can we ad a tech forum section on "Talking and buckling in. You can do two things at once"

(Trust me, If you'd ever skied/rode with my friend, you'd understand this one)
post #22 of 28
I stole these from my wife who stole them from someone else...

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Originally Posted by Lola
What is the difference between God and a ski instructor?
God doesn't think she is a ski instrucor.

A car has five snowboarders in the back seat. What do you call the driver?
Sherrif

What is the difference between a snowboard instructor and a snowboard student?
Three days

How does a snowboard instructor meet his class?
He runs into them.

What do you call a snowboarder with no girlfriend?
Homeless
post #23 of 28
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Wow. I just reread my post immediately above. That came off a lot snarkier than I had intended. Sorry about that. Let's let it stand as is, and I'll be mindful of tone issues in future posts here.
I thought it was perfect.


What do snowboarders use for birth control?


Their personalities.
post #24 of 28
I was using this as my sig:

Q What are the last words a snowboarder ever says?
A Dude, watch this!
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by boostertwo View Post
I appreciate the addition of snowboard sections to Epic, and am confident that the newly split sections will see increased traffic as the season commences.

To help folks navigate and to appeal to core boarders I think it would be a good idea to rename the section groupings to "Ski and Snowboard Training Forums" and "Ski and Snowboard Gear Forums".


Mi dos centavos.
B-2
Booster has broached the line which most "Ski Schools" did when they decided to take the title

"Snow Sports School"

Somehow "Epicsnowsports" sounds awkward.

Hem
post #26 of 28
Thread Starter 
sorry I started all of the jokes...

nevertheless... Booster (as Usual) is right. maybe we could just change the mainheadings to "Gear forums" and "training forums..."
post #27 of 28
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sorry I started all of the jokes...
Jokes? What jokes?:
A little humor goes a long way in building relationships, dontcha think?
post #28 of 28
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sorry I started all of the jokes...
d00d, no sweat.
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