Originally Posted by Bob Peters
You're being a tad dense.
I was saying I felt that your Fiddler-on-the-Roof video was STEEPER than many of the other folks who were commenting on your skills thought it was. I was actually supporting you, although I have no clue why I would do that.
And yes, I *do* know the pitch of the line that Phil skied. Your estimate was about 25% low on the upper portion and just about right on the lower.
Sure, I'm not picking a fight. I can estimate pitch pretty well, even on video.
While you can see the angle on the gondi towers in that clip, it still looks like the area around the rock isn't all that steep.
I should note for other people that most expert ski runs are in the 20 to 35 degree range. Most people will find 35 degrees quite steep. Very brief pitches of 40-45 degrees are not unheard of though, even on the east coast. Tuckermans gets over 45 degrees at times.
My original home area has a trail that gets up to a measured 45 degrees for about 100 feet (no snow), right in the middle. It's only about 300 feet total, with a 35-40 degree overall pitch. Depending on how they blow snow on it, it can be less than that, or you can get a wall-like section of 50+ degrees for about 50 feet.