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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Would any of these four options work? (I’m naturally cold all the time, but I do get warm when skiing. The pit zips in last year’s jacket were a blessing, so that’s a must.) I realize this is partly an opinion-seeking question, but the basics/concept of these, please.
Thanks for taking the time to give me feedback.
1. http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39187309&storeId=226&memb erId=12500226
2. http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39164062&storeId=226&memb erId=12500226
3. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,44284_GoLIte-Wizard-Hooded-Jacket-Waterproof-For-Women.html?
4. http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...rId=1250022 6
post #2 of 10
( I sense a search on "Pit zips, womens, jacket")

If the fit on those jackets was good for you,

The Marmot is likely to be the warmest and most versatile; the zip-out fleece 200 weight liner, the taped zippers, lined collar, are all bonus features at this price point. It is twice the weight of the others, but that is, in this case, a feature not a drawback.

The Golite is not likely to be as warm when you need it, but would be my second pick, again, if the fit was just as good.

I notice the weight of your previous one was an issue. The apparent weight of a jacket to a skier is heavily influenced by fit, for example
- shoulders too wide or binding (narrow) (narrow shoulders are obviously a problem, too wide ones can cause material to bunch under the armpits)
- binding under the armpits (women's fits can be vastly different here)
- sleeves too long, cuffs too wide (sleeves don't -quite- move with the motion , or hang too loose and don't seal with the gloves so snow gets in)
- front-to back fit (say it rides up in the back)
- how well it matches the layers underneath (if a base layer is loose where a jacket is tight it can bind together, if the pit zips don't match they're less than useful as they can bind together)
- tightness across the hips (can cause tension in the lower front of the jacket, influencing everything including zipper closure and shoulder fit) I notice you've picked jackets with drawcord hems - those can be harder to fit to exact length than long coats with internal waist cords.

The sensation of warmth is also heavily influenced by fit and moisture management; it is easily possible for a binding, tight jacket to feel too hot as the moisture pools at the contact point.

Except maybe for the Ore-Gomi, which I regard as a bit too much of a fashion statement for true functional versatility, any of those jackets would suit as a moisture and wind barrier. Additional insulation on the inside would be at your discretion, say 100 weight to 200 weight fleece with possibly either moisture transport or windblock specificity, but of a cut to cooperate with the jacket without significant problems such as the ones above. A cheap but well-fitting jacket without bells and whistles will do a better job than another with bargain features but ill-fitted to you.

In your shoes I would probably visit any number of chain-outdoor stores (EMS, HTO, REI, TSA/DSG etc) and possibly surplus stores or hiking shops, just to get a feel for how it all works together.
post #3 of 10
PS, the term 'softshell' doesn't refer to the outer surface finish, it is quite possible for a jacket to have a soft outer surface finish and an internal moisture membrane that, with the membrane backing, does not allow for multi-way stretch of the fabric. It is then still a 'hard shell'.
post #4 of 10
I would second the advice given above. Trying on a jacket would be the best option to ensure you're getting the best fit for your money. At stores like REI, the staff is trained to point out features that are important for the intended use. If that doesn't work, you could also try REI.com, which has a closeout area that has a lot of mid to top line gear and good fitting charts to help you make a decision. You could also ask questions online or check their FAQ section.

From you choices, for durability and functionality, I would go with the Marmot. Fit properly, it's got the bells and whistles covered while still remaining stylish. It looks like it has a dropped hem in the rear (nice for chairlift rides) and I even like the color.
post #5 of 10
I would pick the Marmot.
post #6 of 10
Sounds like you are similar to me, TugboatJulie. I seem to get colder every year, in that straight shells aren't doing it for me any more.

I am unfashionable and like the versatility of a padded/insulated jacket, with vents and pit zips. My current one is a beaut, I even use it for spring back country jaunts (with just a thermal wicking underwear underneath).
I think a hood is essential, as you can get that out and put it on for extra warmth; it keeps the neck warmth in.

I kind-of prefer jackets to be a tad longer too, for the same reasons. Those waist-length jackets look nice, but when you need that warmth performance, something longer will keep the warmth in better.

You should go for waterproof, as when you need it, you'll really need it.

Try to get a colour that doesn't show the dirt too easily! On wettish days, for instance, the chairs will drip grease-laden water on you.
post #7 of 10

None of the above

I looked at the all, and none of them really impressed me. I think the fact that the Marmot is listed as a "rain" jacket is cause for concern. Most gear companies offer a lightweight rain-type jacket that would probably not hold up very well under the stress of a ski season (skis on shoulders, etc). I think the advice to try on the jackets at your nearest REI, EMS would be a big help.

OK - I'll concede that the Columbia might work - but it just screams something (not sure what, but I know it's not good).
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 


ok...scrap those jackets then. I think I'm getting a better picture of what I need to find!

In SC, ski gear doesn't come out until late Oct or early Nov (and limited even then), so I"m getting a little ansty but don't want to buy without knowing fit--like REI, Campmor, STP, etc.

Thanks for everyone's time/input!
post #9 of 10
Keep watching the main gear sites: my favourites are overstock.com, steep and cheap (it's a bit like Woot.com, in that htey have one thing for one day, but some of the buys are really good! It's part of backcountry.com, another good site although the prices aren't super dooper cheap, generally), and sierra trading post.
post #10 of 10
Tuggers, a Helly Hansen or the like from a chandlery would work too.
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