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Johnny on the spot? or Peter Practice?

Poll Results: Are you a Johnny On the Spot? or are you a Peter Practice?

  • 36% (11)
    Johnny On The Spot
  • 63% (19)
    Peter Practice
30 Total Votes  
post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
So the question is with skiing, do you feels as if you born to do this ie "Johnny on the spot" or have to practice to be good "Peter Practice". So choose what you think you are and your reasons. The response for this thread should be pretty good.

I give my thoughts later on.
post #2 of 16

i took to it pretty quickly, at age 36. something "natural," sure but after that "hey, not bad for a beginner" start, getting to where i am now has required focus. (i am not an "expert" skier.)

i think plenty of people can become pretty efficient relatively quickly on groomed blue terrain; get some basics down and you can have plenty of fun doing that; parking and riding is not all that demanding, relative to taking yourself up the rest of the ladder, which is going to involve some practice.

at least in my experience.

i do think some people are more physically (coordination, sense of balance, etc.) and mentally (fear, willingness to stick with uncomfortable stages, etc.) "fit" than others, just as in plenty of other activities.

as far as "born to," yes, but i mean that in the sense that it brings me such joy and something i've not found anywhere else, and that was the case coming out of the first turn i made.
post #3 of 16
When I was very small I was put into lessons because I had no fear of skiing. I started as a five year old. Both of my parents skiied.
I would go straight down the hill getting as much speed as possible and just when my mom thought I would kill my self I would pull out into a controlled crash to stop. to this day she talks about all the grey hairs I gave her much too soon. So I got put into lessons from that point on for winter series and then all through school until my last year in high school h .
So I learned through so many lessons . Then after that I skiied and didn't think of having or needing any .
Last year I took a half day private lesson from a cert III and found I still have much to work on or re-establish my skills for a more modern technique . Back to school again . Now i work on stuff on the groomers and just ski elsewhere.
post #4 of 16
I first went when I was 4. I didn't take lessons then and have only taken maybe 2 or 3 in my life (I'm now 19). I would consider myself an advanced skier (I'm terrified of the word expert due to the skiing experience on this site). The time where I improved the most was in the second grade, when I got to stay at the mountain with a relative for 9 days while my parents were on vacation. Prior to that, I had only been on day trips. After that week I could confidently ski any trail at Sugarloaf :. I guess I would call that practice.
post #5 of 16
I was a pretty good Johny on the spot for about 15 years, then I took a lesson and started practicing and got better.
post #6 of 16

I'm inclined to say "Jenny on the spot", because the first time I skied, I knew it was something I'd do for years to come.
I never ever had to be coaxed to go skiing.
It took me no time at all to learn to Ski, turn, & stop, in ice, crud, groomed and the minor powder we get in Michigan.

But then there's the "polly practice" in me because, there is so much I want to do on the hill that I have not accomplished.

Bumps...I really wanna do bumps well.
Jumps....Still not comfy with open space between my skis and the snow surface, but I have a burning desire to get comfy with it!

Big plans for me to establish a new comfort zone in 2007!
post #7 of 16

Ol' Pete on the spot.

Even though my name is Pete, I am a Johnny, per your criteria. Rather confusing now that I think about it.

For some reason skiing comes easy. I have progressed scary fast in three seasons. A late starter at age 52. I seem to be a level 7. The only thing that holds me back is me. It's almost like I am meant to be a skiier, but never knew it until recently. My wife has skied for 25 years and most of my friends ski.

Kinda strange, but good.

Lessons have been help too.
post #8 of 16
I started skiing at 2 years old so it feels as natural as walking for me.
post #9 of 16
I too started at age 36 like Ryan, but it took me YEARS to become moderately competent, and many more years to become a decent skier. Now about to start my 19th year I've got hopes of becoming a very good skier. Took me tons of work, reading, some lessons, LOTS of days on the hill. Worked through years of arch cramping, kept going, stuck with it.

Never was atheletic, a musician. It totally changed my life, now it IS my life.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Ok time to reply to my own thread.

I voted Johnny On the Spot, even though I have had tons of practice. but during all that time I never felt "lets go skiing to get better better" I allways felt lets go skiing well to go skiing. I feel I adapt well to unknown conditions and circumstances. I had good build to start this sport and it only got better with 4 years of skiing. I know there are people out there with less experince than me that are better than me, I just havent found them yet. I also know that there are many people out there who have skied way longer than me and will never be as good as me. Oh yeah I know I have huge head, probably unrightfully so, but confindence even overly so helps you more than any single one thing skiing.
post #11 of 16
It's the miles. Smart miles, with goals and a specific plan to meet them, are a lot better of course.

Most people who call themselves "Johnny On the Spot" tend to have certain personality characteristics though in terms of mental toughness and humor that allow them to learn faster, though. To an extent, you could say they were cognitively prepped for skiing/riding and naturals in this sense. The current issue of Frequency (snowboarding mag) has an interview with Barrett Christy, who broke her tailbone her first day out. I've had friends do some falling leaves and then start linking decent turns, with no hard falls, their first day. But starting as a late teen she was a great rider after just a couple seasons.
post #12 of 16
This talent is god-given, baby.
post #13 of 16
Both. I take a lesson or two when I figure I'm ready to try something new, or to progress a level (green to blue, blue to black, moguls, powder), and then I continue on my own. Most of the people I ski with were surprised at how quickly I progressed, but the 35 to 50 days a year I was able to put in probably helped.
post #14 of 16
I am both, I started out at age 6 and was pretty good, I was put in lessons and advanced very quickly, being put into a program for 15 year old racers at age 11. After a two yeards of that, I left, taking ointers on form from my father. I would now say that I can handle anything you throw at me, excpet for cliffs/jumping and tightly woven trees, I have been deathly afraid of them after a nasty accident.
post #15 of 16
Certain other sports activities like ice hockey, ice or in-line skating or soccer where eye/ foot coordination plays a key role may make skiing proficiently come much easier and more quickly. Or successful Johnnie's-on-the-Spot may be very gifted athletically.

The typical Johnny-on-the-Spot that I've encountered would benefit from getting to know Peter Practice and more importantly, Larry Lesson. There are a lot of folks that enjoy, even love skiing but do not do it well. They're most of the people on the mountain on any given weekend.

It is a great thing to fall in love with the sport immediately. It is another thing to ski well. Much of skiing is counter-intuitive. The result is often that, even with practice, many simply become good at doing things bad. This goes for those seen on Expert as well as Beginner slopes. Larry Lesson can prove a valuable Friend, especially when you start to think you don't need him.

This, from the voice of experience.
post #16 of 16
I feel like I had a natural ability for it. And after all, my name is John, so I guess I'm a johnny on the spot. Not to say, a whole lot of years of practice didn't help. I went after skiing on my own. My parents have never skied. I took a day trip to Ski Liberty when I was 11, with my Jr High. Skied once each year, the first 3 years, about 15 per year the next couple, then started teaching when I was 17. God made it easy on me, by giving me very straight legs and feet that could just fit into a generic boot and not have too many issues.
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