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is it worth going to a shop to have bindings installed?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone, I'm back with one of my crazy questions.

I've been calling around trying to find a shop that can mount my bindings. There is only one place I can go thats local and thats Sport Chalet. Anyone else is a long drive away. Now when I have talked to them they couldn't give me exact pricing (which is odd) and it seemed every question I asked was followed by, "Ummm I'm not sure let me ask." when asked how long it would take I was told 1 to 2 days, then when I called back I was told 1 to 2 weeks. Anyway I'm not sure those people are the ones I want working on my skis.

I found a small shop about 38 miles away that can do it. They seem to know what they are talking about.

Honestly though I figure I could mount them myself. Its a rail system. This seems easy enough. Not like I have to drill holes or anything. Normally I would never consider paying someone to do something that seems this simple but I thought maybe there is something I'm missing. Is there something special these techs know?

Its funny because I can install motors in cars, build pc's, do plumbing, I used to be a low voltage technician, yet I second guess myself about doing something that seems quite simple.
post #2 of 25
What kind of rail system? What brand of binding are we talking here?
post #3 of 25
I have done rail system skis by myself, just make sure you know your stuff about forwards pressure and releasing before you attempt this.

Hey if you mess up and brake you leg, or something you can allways sue yourself.
post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
Hey if you mess up and brake you leg, or something you can allways sue yourself.
I tried that, but ended up settling out of court. Turns out the victim was sleeping with the prosicution.
post #5 of 25
If you're talking the Tyrolia/Fischer system, it's quite easy to do yourself, provided you understand forward pressure and DIN. Of course, you probably can't torque-test them yourself, so if the bindings are bad (unlikely, but possible), you may not know until you're skiing.

Why not run up to the mountains, drop in on the base area shop at Big Bear or something, chat 'em up about the new gear while they mount your bindings and test them? Should take about 20 minutes and $20 or so. Less if you bring beer...
post #6 of 25
Which system is key.

IIRC, there are posts on TGR that point to PDFs for the Rossi/Look, Salomon, and Tyrolia shop manuals that the companies have posted on the Web. At least, I think that's how I got mine. <grin> I've only used them for adjusting DIN and forward pressure, though.

Even assuming that you do it all correctly, you will lose the benefit of indemnification.
post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
Sorry guys. My gear is in my sig thats why I didn't post it. I have the Fischer RX8 w/Railflex2 FX12 Binding System 2006

Big Bear City is 80 miles away and I drive a BIG car so it would cost me 3/4 tank of gas to get there and back. add that to the cost of having them mount the bindings and I'm spending $80+

I can't bring myself to drive all the way up there unless I'm going skiing.
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by Amish View Post
Sorry guys. My gear is in my sig thats why I didn't post it. I have the Fischer RX8 w/Railflex2 FX12 Binding System 2006
These are easy to mount. The torque-test issue remains.
post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
They looked easy enough. How is this torque-test done? As for adjusting the bindings for release, I have done that before on my old bindings to better suite my weight at the time. I'll read up on that before doing it. I'd love to just pull into a local shop and have them do it while I wait but it seems there is no such thing as a local shop here in Temecula, California.
post #10 of 25
By popular demand....

Tyrolia (a.k.a. Head, Fischer) 2005/06 manual

Salomon's manuals directory (including DIN posters, no less)

Rossi 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals

Look 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals
post #11 of 25
And here's a possible idea:

Mount them yourself, and take them to a shop for a DIN set and "function check" -- cheaper than a mount, and gets you the indemnification.
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
And here's a possible idea:

Mount them yourself, and take them to a shop for a DIN set and "function check" -- cheaper than a mount, and gets you the indemnification.
Perfect! Great idea!
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
By popular demand....

Tyrolia (a.k.a. Head, Fischer) 2005/06 manual

Salomon's manuals directory (including DIN posters, no less)

Rossi 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals

Look 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals
Thanks a bunch! Rock on!
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
By popular demand....

Tyrolia (a.k.a. Head, Fischer) 2005/06 manual

Salomon's manuals directory (including DIN posters, no less)

Rossi 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals

Look 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, and 05/06 manuals




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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
And here's a possible idea:

Mount them yourself, and take them to a shop for a DIN set and "function check" -- cheaper than a mount, and gets you the indemnification.
Thanks for the links!

And great idea! Think I'll do that.

Thanks again everyone!
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by Amish View Post
Big Bear City is 80 miles away and I drive a BIG car so it would cost me 3/4 tank of gas to get there and back. add that to the cost of having them mount the bindings and I'm spending $80+

I can't bring myself to drive all the way up there unless I'm going skiing.
Problem solved. Wait until you go skiing. Drop the skis off, do a few runs while you wait and bingo!

You must have a small tank. 160 miles =3/4 of a tank of gas?
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by SNPete View Post
Problem solved. Wait until you go skiing. Drop the skis off, do a few runs while you wait and bingo!

You must have a small tank. 160 miles =3/4 of a tank of gas?
If you drive half as fast you will get 4 times the gas milage .

My brother had an early 70s Camaro that woud get about 5 mpg to 8 mpg when pushed hard (not stock, 150 mph top end).

Great links Aplinesdad. I've been looking for something like that for a while.
post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
I get around 18mpg. I drive a pretty good sized car. V8 (4.6L) 20g fuel tank.
My average speed is between 75-85mph. (thats most likely my biggest problem.)

If i drive around 65 to 70mph I get much better mileage. I have a hard time driving that slow though lol.

When I left to go up there I was slightly below a full tank, and when I got back I had about a quarter tank left. So it wasn't quite 3/4 used but not too far off.

I paid around $59 to fill up the day before and I paid another $50 to fill up again one day later, though I did drive around 40 miles before filling up again.

anyway, my car eats gas lol
post #18 of 25
Not a problem. Hopefully, the companies won't lock these down.
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by Amish View Post
Big Bear City is 80 miles away and I drive a BIG car so it would cost me 3/4 tank of gas to get there and back. add that to the cost of having them mount the bindings and I'm spending $80+

I can't bring myself to drive all the way up there unless I'm going skiing.
I was just thinking how beautiful it probably is about now... Getting cooler. Winter in the air. Trees turning...
post #20 of 25
Mount them yourself...if it was a flat ski then I would say let the "pros" do it.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by Amish View Post
I get around 18mpg. I drive a pretty good sized car. V8 (4.6L) 20g fuel tank.
My average speed is between 75-85mph. (thats most likely my biggest problem.)

If i drive around 65 to 70mph I get much better mileage. I have a hard time driving that slow though lol.

When I left to go up there I was slightly below a full tank, and when I got back I had about a quarter tank left. So it wasn't quite 3/4 used but not too far off.

I paid around $59 to fill up the day before and I paid another $50 to fill up again one day later, though I did drive around 40 miles before filling up again.

anyway, my car eats gas lol
get rid of the crown vic cop car.
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
If you're talking the Tyrolia/Fischer system, it's quite easy to do yourself, provided you understand forward pressure and DIN. Of course, you probably can't torque-test them yourself, so if the bindings are bad (unlikely, but possible), you may not know until you're skiing.

Why not run up to the mountains, drop in on the base area shop at Big Bear or something, chat 'em up about the new gear while they mount your bindings and test them? Should take about 20 minutes and $20 or so. Less if you bring beer...
Everyone is always saying bring beer to the ski techs in the shop. What is that all about ? In what shop do they allow their workers to drink? I would not want some drunk dude working on my ski nor would I condone alcohol to be dropped off to my workers if I owned the shop. Looks kind of bad, ya know?
Not to mention they will propbably tell you they can't accept it and now you have lugged it around for no reason.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by connor View Post
Everyone is always saying bring beer to the ski techs in the shop. What is that all about ? In what shop do they allow their workers to drink? I would not want some drunk dude working on my ski nor would I condone alcohol to be dropped off to my workers if I owned the shop. Looks kind of bad, ya know?
Not to mention they will propbably tell you they can't accept it and now you have lugged it around for no reason.
I have yet to have it turned down. Once they start to remember you by name/face, I will drop off a case to thank them for the favors they are about to do for me . A $30.00 case of Magic Hat goes a long way. It will save me 3-4x in discounts and time saved over the course of a season. Note, qualify that they shop rats are over 21 .

Nothing these guys appreciate more that a cold beer..after the work is doneand the doors are locked.
post #24 of 25
i think the beer is just a gesture of good will. besides, beer is much more preferable than say fruitcake.

as for the whole mounting debate, since it's only September and it's doubtful that you're going to use your skis until the season starts in your area, i would just have them mounted at the resort. call ahead, though. most of the shops in Tahoe had a 1 day turn-around. what i ended up doing, since i have 4 pairs to get mounted, was that i dropped one pair off on a Friday night. picked them up Saturday morning before the lifts opened and that's when i dropped off the other 3 pairs.

i just don't know enough about skis to mount them myself and am horrible at reading directions. i do have a buddy who is an ex-tech (worked serveral seasons at both Alpine Meadows and Northstar) and I have him detune and wax my skis in exchange for beer (he doesn't drink it while working on my skis, though). i've often contemplated having him teach me to mount bindings, but the $25 mounting fee at the shops isn't a wallet breaker in my opinion (if it was like $75 or $100, then I probably would learn to mount myself).

Good call on not going to the Sports Chalet given their umming and uhhing. Nothing is more unsettling than talking to somebody at a store about gear and realizing that you know more than them, even when it seems like you don't know that much. i ran into that several times last year at shops in Tahoe. the best was when i was calling around to demo skis and one shop at a reputable resort, which carried Volkls, had never heard of the Karma. i spent 10 minutes on the phone with the shop tech describing the Karma only to have him tell me that he'd never heard of it and that it couldn't possibly be a Volkl ski!
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
Note, qualify that they shop rats are over 21 .
I would say under 21 the discount goes up.
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