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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
So my car (Saturn L300) has a clearance problem that won't let me use tire-chains. so I can't drive to the ski resorts, esp the ones that don't have busses....

My potential solutions.

1 -- buy an AWD car (too expensive)

2 -- use spider spikes http://www.spikes-spiders.com/


Does anyone have experience with these chain-replacements?

(mods: hope I put this in the right forum place!)
post #2 of 16
I have the same problem with my car (2000 Honda Civic w/ 17" rims. Yeah, I know: rice), and looked into the spike spider, but they were just too expensive to justify at the time. (In retrospect though, they probably would have been cheaper than the overnight stay that I was forced into by chains-only restrictions through Donner Pass).

I'm again thinking about buying a set, but I've never seen any reviews (good or bad) of the system, and $300-$400 seems awfully steep.
post #3 of 16
I suppose you wouldn't use it enough to sacrifice the performance and get smaller wheels/tires?
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I suppose you wouldn't use it enough to sacrifice the performance and get smaller wheels/tires?

I could see myself using them 15-20x's a season to get up ogden canyon via snowbasin. Smaller tires would be as much of an expense. just looking to see if anyone actually uses these things.
post #5 of 16
considering the kind of car you are talking about, which probably has pretty small wheels and tires, wouldn't it be easier to get a cheap set of smaller steel wheels and some good snow tires? The total cost would probably be about the same, but you could just put them on and leave them on. And if you did that, you'd probably have clearance for chains if you ended up in a situation that required them.

I'm also curious that is you have clearance issues that wouldn't allow chains, how is it that this thing will fit? Is the clearance problem on the inside of the tire?
post #6 of 16
I have a friend who uses these and loves them. I can vouch to how easy they are to install/uninstall even in a snow storm. I do vote for separate wheels and snow tires though... It's worth it, especially given your location.
post #7 of 16
300 will almost pay for a set of snow tires mounted on rims.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
I have snow tires. That isn't the issue -- it is going up Ogden/Little/Big Cottonwood during/after/before a storm. In these situations, Chains or AWD or some other devide is required. Snow tires are always required from Nov to May.

The cottonwoods aren't as big a deal b/c they have busses, but I'm going to be skiing SnowBasin a lot, and they don't have a bus that runs up the canyon to the resort. So when chains are required, I can't go up without fear of getting a hefty ticket.

Guess it's the SpiderSpikes
post #9 of 16
Report back. They interest me.
post #10 of 16
For those of you who don't know I live in snow country.

My observations and the testimonies of others who live in my area are as follows.

In order of effectivness for snow. (IMO, of course. )

1. AWD/4WD with real snow tires.

2. AWD/4WD with M&S tires with chains. Link style is better than cable.

3. 2WD with real snow tires.

4. 2WD with M&S tires with chains. Link style is better than cable.

5. AWD/4WD with M&S tires and Spider Spikes

6. AWD/4WD with M&S tires.

7. 2WD with Spider spikes

Remember that turning and braking are important factors.That's why a 2WD with real snow tires are safer in snow than a 4WD/AWD with average M&S tires.

The only advantage to Spiders is that they are easy to install. Cables are better.

Are you sure that you can't use cables?
post #11 of 16
Snpete has some good info.

on my intergra I just use studded snows on the front, no studded in the rear(oversteer is faster than understeer), and got a LSD on the car. Chains for the really bad days.
post #12 of 16
check these out. Even cheaper than the spider spikes.

http://www.flextrax.com/?r=adwords
post #13 of 16
I have AWD with four studded snow tires, but occasionally there are issues getting up to my house. The road is not plowed by the county, let alone sanded. ONE TIME we paid for some gravel to the tune of $125, which convinced me that this was not something we were going to do each time it snowed. Last year I ended up descending perpendicular to the road on two occasions. I've always gotten up eventually, but it would be nice to slap something on quickly for that few hundred feet after the first unsuccessful attempt. This things sound perfect, but the price would interfere with things like getting new boots or a new digital camera....
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
I have AWD with four studded snow tires, but occasionally there are issues getting up to my house. The road is not plowed by the county, let alone sanded. ONE TIME we paid for some gravel to the tune of $125, which convinced me that this was not something we were going to do each time it snowed. Last year I ended up descending perpendicular to the road on two occasions. I've always gotten up eventually, but it would be nice to slap something on quickly for that few hundred feet after the first unsuccessful attempt. This things sound perfect, but the price would interfere with things like getting new boots or a new digital camera....
I just slap on an extra 40 mph.
Edit: Now if I could just find a way to subtract 40mph from 0 before going down those icy switchbacks and hills that always have a corner at the bottom.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Some update info --

The spikes count as "elastomeric" tire chains (i.e. very hard rubber) and thus fill the legal gap so one can drive up the canyon when it is restricted to 4wd/chains. I'm going to get some real snows (to replace my all-season M+S) for winter driving and throw the spikes on when it gets hairy.

Suggestions for a good (but cheap -- consider the spikes are 3-400 already) set of snows?
post #16 of 16
Trying to save on snowtires is false economy, especially if you have to go down long hills with corners at the bottom or drive in traffic in bad conditions. Avoiding one accident will pay for a set of good snow tires, such as Michelin Arctic Alpins or Bridgestone Blizzaks.
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