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Fischer RX 8 -binding placement?

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I have a new (05) pair of Rx 8 (flat) that I want to use primarily for short turns in the fall line on groomer days. With this purpose in mind, is there any one who might advise me on whether I would benefit from a binding placement that is more anterior ('ball of foot at center of running length") or otherwise different from the mfg. recommended placement.
My previous post on this languished, so I am trying again. Thanks very much for any advice you may have.
post #2 of 16
full focus, by any chance are you putting bindings on them that are movable (the Fischer/Tyrolias and Atomics can do this)? If not, which bindings are you putting on them?

They respond very well from the center of the ski, but, depending on their length and your preference for turn shape and initiation characteristics, you might enjoy them forward. So, what ski length did you get, which bindings will you put on them, and what size (height and weight) are you?
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Originally Posted by full focus View Post
I have a new (05) pair of Rx 8 (flat) that I want to use primarily for short turns in the fall line on groomer days. With this purpose in mind, is there any one who might advise me on whether I would benefit from a binding placement that is more anterior ('ball of foot at center of running length") or otherwise different from the mfg. recommended placement.
My previous post on this languished, so I am trying again. Thanks very much for any advice you may have.
Move a binding forward of the mark, and a binding is quicker turning but less stable, the opposite when moving the mounting back. I used to mount bindings forward a mm., before women specific skis came out, to make up for a women's rearward center of mass. Yhen those skis had it built in. I stopped when shaped skis came out, as I don't think it's as applicable, keeping the binding at the middle of the sidecut is probably more important.
For years, Ess, and now Atomic, have made movable bindings. It sure does sound like a great idea, but most everyone I know, including me, play with it for a week and then leave it at it's normal position. Unless you have an opportunity to experiment with it, why would you try to outguess the factory ski designers.
post #4 of 16
If the plate is floating at toe + heel and fixed in the middle, does that not effectively move the toe forward on the ski, and the heel backwards, as the ski decambers?

Thus, rendering it more of a question of the balance of the skier in the boot?
post #5 of 16
I have RX9's with the plate and Tyrolia FX12 bindings. I have experimented and discovered that I don't much care for them in the rear position (15 mm behind factory norm. But they can be fun when mounted 15 mm
forward. They ski a little more like a slalom ski when they are mounted forward. Just my .02.
post #6 of 16
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I have RX9's with the plate and Tyrolia FX12 bindings. I have experimented and discovered that I don't much care for them in the rear position (15 mm behind factory norm. But they can be fun when mounted 15 mm
forward. They ski a little more like a slalom ski when they are mounted forward. Just my .02.
My experience, exactly. I still play with them sometimes but mostly leave them in the center position on my RX-9's.
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
full focus, by any chance are you putting bindings on them that are movable (the Fischer/Tyrolias and Atomics can do this)? If not, which bindings are you putting on them?

They respond very well from the center of the ski, but, depending on their length and your preference for turn shape and initiation characteristics, you might enjoy them forward. So, what ski length did you get, which bindings will you put on them, and what size (height and weight) are you?

Thanks, I should have included this info:
skiis are 160 and I am 5-9 175#. I plan to use them exclusively for short, slower turns in the fall line an groomer days, thus the slightly shorter length.
Ideally I'd like to use the Look t120 bindings from a recent pair of Rossy B-2, but I can probably get any binding currently available.
post #8 of 16
By contrast, I tinkered with my RX8 placement, ended up with it 1.5 cm forward, prefer the quicker reponse to the (very) slight loss of stability and pop.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by full focus View Post
Thanks, I should have included this info:
skiis are 160 and I am 5-9 175#. I plan to use them exclusively for short, slower turns in the fall line an groomer days, thus the slightly shorter length.
Ideally I'd like to use the Look t120 bindings from a recent pair of Rossy B-2, but I can probably get any binding currently available.
Given this, I'd be tempted to mount them a bit forward for more rapid turn initiation. I'm triggering on "short" and "slower".
post #10 of 16
Mount your bindings on an RX-6.
post #11 of 16
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Given this, I'd be tempted to mount them a bit forward for more rapid turn initiation. I'm triggering on "short" and "slower".
Thanks. Yes, 'slower' and 'short' are the two key words for these skiis. I'll use my 5* and Nordica Top Fuel for the wide, faster variety. I need to slow down some, especially on the crowded weekends -saw too many severe injuries at Mammoth last year.

How much should I shift them forward of the standard placement?
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by BigE View Post
Mount your bindings on an RX-6.
Can you elaborate?
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by full focus View Post
Thanks. Yes, 'slower' and 'short' are the two key words for these skiis. I'll use my 5* and Nordica Top Fuel for the wide, faster variety. I need to slow down some, especially on the crowded weekends -saw too many severe injuries at Mammoth last year.

How much should I shift them forward of the standard placement?

I'd shift them forward 15 mm. I found them to be quite turny and a lot of fun with that setup.
post #14 of 16
You want slower? Use a ski with less performance! (that and I should not post while drinking)...
post #15 of 16
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You want slower? Use a ski with less performance! (that and I should not post while drinking)...
Nah, have another beer, your comment cracked me up.....
post #16 of 16
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Mount your bindings on an RX-6.
Funny!
But off the mark in my experience.
The RX 8, while a high performance ski, is not just for high speed turns. I found it to be very willing at slower short turns in the fall line.

Is there any other thought (other than shifting 15mm forward) on how far to move the binding with this type of skiing in mind?
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