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SX10 vs 5 Star / Recommendation

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
hey,

The seasons starting in a couple months and I'm looking for a new pair of skies. I live in the east so its mainly hardpack/ICE. I weigh 150 and am looking to get a ski around 170cm. Right now I'm considering the Atomic
SX10 Or the Volkl 5 Star as well as the new Izor 9:7 not to far off. I would demo them but my mountain almost never has demo days.
What are your thought on these skies(which is better) and what would you recommend for an advanced skier? Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by stan54 View Post
hey,

The seasons starting in a couple months and I'm looking for a new pair of skies. I live in the east so its mainly hardpack/ICE. I weigh 150 and am looking to get a ski around 170cm. Right now I'm considering the Atomic
SX10 Or the Volkl 5 Star as well as the new Izor 9:7 not to far off. I would demo them but my mountain almost never has demo days.
What are your thought on these skies(which is better) and what would you recommend for an advanced skier? Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
For starters, how tall are you? It can have an impact on the proper length.
The SX10 and 5 star are good choices to look at. I think you'd find that the Izor isn't quite as agressive and doesn't have the edgehold you'd find in the SX and 5star. Depending on your skill level and preference in skiis, you may want to try some of these as well.

Atomic
SX:12 (similar to SX:11 previously) - higher performance and really good edgehold, but at the cost of low end maneuverability. More GS turnshape.
ST:12 - this is a slalom carver, plenty of performance to be had, but smaller turnshape.

Head
Supershape - another slalom carver, but it skis long - under 170 and you'll likely find it a little too soft (they change the construction to make it for women/juniors under 170)
Supershape Speed (this is the same as last year's 1200SW) - it's a nice high performance GS carver, not unlike the SX:12, but with somewhat better low end performance

Volkl Allstar - basically a bigger slightly stiffer brother to the 5star, which you prefer depends on how stiff and high performance a ski you want.

That's a fair number of choices to throw at you, if you give us a little more info on how you like to ski, we can certainly help narrow it down. Hope that helps, feel free to ask some questions.
post #3 of 15
All of the skis suggested in the previous post are indeed fine skis but be aware that they are all a step above and more demanding than your 2 choices. I would agree that the Izor is not at the same level.
I would especially note that the Sx12 is a very demanding ski and one that you may not want as your only ski since it may get tiring as the day wears on.
I too would question your height as at 150 lbs a size 170 may be pushing at the longer limit.
Having skied both the Sx10 and the 5 Star quite a bit, I personally feel the Sx10 to be a bit more versatile but very different in feel from a 5 Star. I also feel that torsionaly it is a bit stiffer. Both however, are fine skis and both can probably be found in previous years models at a good discount.
post #4 of 15
My experience is with the SX10 and SX11. If you don't have the skills to ski the SX11, you won't enjoy the SX10 either. They feel pretty much the same and the 10 is just as likely to cause you problems if you don't know how bend a ski's edge when it's locked into the hardpack. The SX11 will give you a lot more performance imho than the 10 and isn't any harder to ski. It will also take a little longer to reach the point of being out of control due to too much speed.

If you are skiing bumps, the 10 will be slightly better though still probably not the ideal choice. I don't know about the 5*, but have read that the Allstar was made to be slightly softer than the old 6* so it might be the right choice. It all depends on your abilities and what you intend to do with the ski. We need more info.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
THanks for all your replys. I am 6 ft tall and I like to ski very agrassivly. This is only my third year skiing and I learned on old 190 cm skis but went to a modern shape where I am today. Um, I hit the mountain a least 4 times a week beacuse it only 20 mins away. I did alot of research on these skis and chose them for, like you said, good edge hold and speed. 70% of the time I ski as fast as i can, but like to take it easy somtimes. On my lazy runs I would like managable slow speed manuverabilty and forgivness but without sacrificing a lot of performance? I dont ski bumps often but might in the future. I do enjoy skiing with a slalom style but even more so GS. Lastly, do you know any good websites where i could get deals on last years models?

Robscapes, What do you mean by feel of the skis?
post #6 of 15
Where do you ski (big mountain or small, ice or snow)

If you ski as fast as you can and you can ski fast, then imho the SX10 and 5* won't be up to the task. The SX11 has the goods, but it's like a 2X4 at slow speeds.

Any all-speed skis will give up a little at the very top end. Skies that have the rigidity to perform at top speeds aren't flexible for slow-speed soft snow performance. It will have to be a compromise. From my very limited experience Fisher RX8 or perhaps the Elan S12 fits the bill best if you want to feel good going slow, but still want to get up to about 50mph. If you want to go faster than that, Fischer WC is a good choice; they are fairly forgiving, but too stiff for soft snow and low speeds.

My testing is dated though. I suggest you spend 20 bucks and subscribe to the reviews from Realskiers.com. and look for skis that are rated "all speeds". Any skis that I've skied on seem to me to ski pretty much as their reviews state.


As to feel, Atomic SX feels rock steady like nothing can cause it to hiccup, even the lower numbered SXs. Fischers feel more lively and almost brittle on ice, but perform just as well while giving a little more feedback. You feel like you could really dance with the Fischers on your feet, but the Atomics feel more reasuring at speed. I've handled Volkls. My daughter has a pair of Porsches, but I haven't skied them. I think they have a lively rigid feeling like the Fischers, but with a slightly more reasuring solidity.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
I ski on a medium size mountain. I takes about 2 minutes to get down at speed. A lot of it is snow but there are trails where you could iceskate.: Does the SX10 perform better at, lets say 20 mph, then the 5 star? I am emphasizing these two ski but I am extremly open minded about others, however I found deals on them. Do you know any good online retailers?
post #8 of 15
there was a post earlier that Sierra Trading Post was selling the Sx10 for $299 with bindings! At that price you can't go wrong.
I feel that the 5 Star is a bit easier at slow speeds and the Sx10 better at faster speeds but both can do either.
Ghost is right about the Atomics feeling more rock steady and the Volkls being a little softer with more feedback.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
I read somewhere that the 5 star if very edgy if not held in the "sweet spot"(I dont know what that means lol) Does the sx10 have similar characteristics?
Does anyone else have any oppinions of these skis. Would appreciate it.
post #10 of 15
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post #11 of 15
Since nobody with experience on the 5* will pipe up. I will say that either ski should perform well anywhere between about 17 mph and 45 mph. The SX10 will feel more solid and in control giving you more confidence at the higher speed, but I bet the 5* (just a guess on my part, going from what i've read and heard and extrapolating from my daughter's porsches) will allow you to push it a little faster in spite of feeling a little less composed before actually becoming uncontrolable. As for which one is better in bumps. I just don't know. Unless you are hitting serious lean angles at the high end of the speed range you won't be unhappy with the amount of performance and grip of either ski. When I chose my last skis, I would have been very happy with any of the top five contenders. You are likely in the same boat. If your going to go over a lot of refrozen crap, the SX will crunch right over it and cut a groove without skittering. The SX10 will want to carve and will seem railed if you try to skid turns at low speed, however.
Also: If your going to be making short turns below 45mph, the Salomon Equipe is a real blast, by far the most responsive and fun ski I've tried. It almost reads you mind; think hair-trigger turn (though you can overpower it if you try).
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
THanks alot ghost I really appreciate your help. FRom what youve said i leaning towards the sx10. Happy skiing and good night.
post #13 of 15
Don't forget to search the reviews for Volkl 5* and Atomic SX10 before you decide.
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Since nobody with experience on the 5* will pipe up.

Please see my posts in this thread.
The information on these skis is all here short of demoing them.
You just need to make a decision and have fun.
Neither would be a mistake.
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