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Pre skis, where they from?

post #1 of 63
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I recall they were out of Sun Valley, but I am being told, Park City. I am confused. I know that K2 and Head produced them. I am now not sure where they were out of.
post #2 of 63
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
I recall they were out of Sun Valley, but I am being told, Park City. I am confused. I know that K2 and Head produced them. I am now not sure where they were out of.
RD (research dynamics?) heli dogs, bad bitches, coyotes et al they were the ones out of Park City weren't they? First thing I thought with the Pre skis was Sun Valley as well
post #3 of 63
Pre was Sun Valley and then bought by K2 then finally died off ( as did Olin and K2)

I think it was Tim Kohls comapny
post #4 of 63
I concur that Pre was from Sun Valley, but I think Elan built the actual ski in eastern Europe (unless I am confusing Pre with Research Dynamics).
post #5 of 63
Believe RD were out of Sun Valley. Then same person produced Wolf skiis for a while but is now just tuning out of a shop in SV.
post #6 of 63
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As I thought of it, Ketchum Id.

Guys on another forum are saying that their old Pre's say "Park City". I am rarely off on these things but they say they have proof.


Here is the thread of question, late on page 3 onto page 4.
post #7 of 63
I had several pair, and I could swear they said Sun Valley on them.
post #8 of 63
Tried to read it. The page says I don't have permission.
post #9 of 63
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Originally Posted by tief schnee View Post
I had several pair, and I could swear they said Sun Valley on them.
me too.

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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Tried to read it. The page says I don't have permission.
Hmmm. works for me: .
post #10 of 63
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Here is the conversation from over there..

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Originally Posted by Me
My FIRST new pair of skis I bought at Nestors, Pre 1200SP 204cm. I still have them!
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Originally Posted by Senor Sleeze
I skied on the Pre m5-as with marker M28s 11 years ago...back when they were made in Park City...I still have them in the basement of my parents house..they're really rusty...maybe I'll make one of those ski chairs...with old skis...I might have enough already.
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Originally Posted by Me
Pre was out of Sun Valley, not Park City. Their skies were either made by K2 or Head. I bought my 1200SP's w/ Marker MRR's in 81.
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Originally Posted by Senor Sleeze
Then Why did they say Park City USA on them???
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Originally Posted by Me
Really? Hmmmm. not sure. I do KNOW they were based out of Sun Valley. I do not recall them moving to Park. Do you still have them? take a look and see aslo if they have "Made in (country)" on them. I stopped following them closely about 90 or so.
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Originally Posted by ski
My Pre's are out of Park City USA, too:
post #11 of 63
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Tried to read it. The page says I don't have permission.
I think you need to creat an account, persons on pasr have tangled with tgr and it was not pretty.

Funny yes, pretty no.
post #12 of 63
As an former ski shop owner from the early 1990s (for those of you that think it might be fun, it is great fun but also can be a losing proposition financially), the Pre skis we sold were "from" Sun Valley/Ketchum, although I don't remember whether or not they were manufactured there...
post #13 of 63
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Originally Posted by mmckimson View Post
As an former ski shop owner from the early 1990s (for those of you that think it might be fun, it is great fun but also can be a losing proposition financially), the Pre skis we sold were "from" Sun Valley/Ketchum, although I don't remember whether or not they were manufactured there...
That was my perception. I know they weren't manufactured there, K2 and Head produced the skis.
post #14 of 63
Don't back down, Phil, you're right.

Ketchm, ID. Mike Brunetto. Research Dynamics. Pre Skis.

Here's a link with some references:

http://www.mtexpress.com/1998/12-30-98/brunetto.htm

And here's a short quote from that article by Dick Dorworth:

If Brunetto were a corporate kind of guy, he could be earning a respectable salary from any number of ski companies and living in any number of places besides the Wood River Valley. But Brunetto is his own man-- independent, eccentric, an experimenter.
He still believes in doing business with a smile and a handshake, and, as mentioned, he’s still experimenting to see if such a philosophy will work in today’s world of ski business.
So far it has.
Wolf Ski sells about 800 pair of skis each year, many of them to loyal, repeat customers who have followed Brunetto to Wolf from Research Dynamics (RD), the company he began in a Ketchum garage in 1975. Before that he had made skis for Head, Dura-Fiber, The Ski, Lynx and K2. By 1982 RD had outgrown Brunetto’s garage.

I *also* owned a 204 pair of Pre 1200's with Marker MRR's. Very nice skis. Softer and a bit more user friendly than my K2 712's of the same length.
post #15 of 63
On second thought...

Maybe Volkl made them.

It's just about the right era. :
post #16 of 63
The mention of Pre skis reminds of a shop salesman that was recommending the ski to me saying that it was a great ski for someone that wanted to ski a few runs go in the lodge have a couple of beers and then ski a little bit more.
I don't think that pitch was ever endorsed by Pre "Pre skis the beer drinkers ski". Talk about a bad value proposition presented by the shop salesman.
post #17 of 63
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On second thought...

Maybe Volkl made them.

It's just about the right era. :
as a subcontractor for K2
post #18 of 63
Any idea what year Pre was bought out, exactly? The lowest pair on my ski totem pole are a pair of Pre 1200's - - but they're short at about 160 and not the skinny sticks. I'd guess they taper to something like a 68-ish waist. Was this the last ski to come off their production line?
post #19 of 63
Well done, Bob! I was reading this thinking "RD and Pre were both Brunetto ski companies..." when I got to your post. Cool!
post #20 of 63
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Originally Posted by trouble View Post
Any idea what year Pre was bought out, exactly? The lowest pair on my ski totem pole are a pair of Pre 1200's - - but they're short at about 160 and not the skinny sticks. I'd guess they taper to something like a 68-ish waist. Was this the last ski to come off their production line?
Not that they were bought out, but more...faded away.

Pre came out in 81 or so. They started with 2 skis... the 800 (a "mid" ski) and the 1200 a recreational slalom. The following year they added the 1200SP and the 1600GSP and IIRC the 1100. They then expanded to the "Premier line", the Electra and the Electra SX. All of these had the simple graphics of lines and maybe some graph. The "M" series stared in the later 80's with the M3,4,5,6. The 6 was a Head built ski.
post #21 of 63
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Originally Posted by trouble View Post
Any idea what year Pre was bought out, exactly? The lowest pair on my ski totem pole are a pair of Pre 1200's - - but they're short at about 160 and not the skinny sticks. I'd guess they taper to something like a 68-ish waist. Was this the last ski to come off their production line?
I'm pretty sure they were all the shit in Banff in '78 or so. 1200 was the number I recall then.
post #22 of 63
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I threw out the ultimate gauntlet to them, if someone can prove to me that Pre was out of Salt Lake. I would ski Blue Mountain with them.
post #23 of 63
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
I threw out the ultimate gauntlet to them, if someone can prove to me that Pre was out of Salt Lake. I would ski Blue Mountain with them.
Say it ain't so!:
Does Finndog know about this?
He oughta!
post #24 of 63
The name is still being used, a least as currently as 2 years ago.

I think for the Asian Market.

I saw some at Sniagrab 2 years ago. I thought about bying a pair but didn't.
post #25 of 63
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
I threw out the ultimate gauntlet to them, if someone can prove to me that Pre was out of Salt Lake. I would ski Blue Mountain with them.
I'll buy the pass......
post #26 of 63
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Uh oh. He has a picture of a Pre Ski that has 'Park City" on it, I still don't think that Pre was ever out of Park City. I might be loosing this on a tecnicality.
post #27 of 63
Park City isn't Salt Lake. You win (on a technicality).

Does it say, "Made in..."?

E-mail Brunetto?
post #28 of 63
I purchased my Pre 1200's in 1985 when I was vacationing in Sun Valley. I remember the saleman telling me that Pre was a Ketchum based company and that the particular skis I purchased were manufactured by K2 for Pre.
post #29 of 63
Phil: Now I wish I still had my PRE 1200's. I got mine as used rentals from the Basin at K-Mart in the early 80's. Finn & I will prove this if I have to lie, and I'll buy the beer. I tried a google search to answer this question, and PRE apparently vanished so long before the internet that it's one of the few subjects with only a couple of hits. Even linking it to the previous proprietors doesn't come up with the info.
post #30 of 63
Maybe the PC skis are used rentals too. It's possible the ski area engraved their name on them.

Brunetto started RD in 1975 and now makes Wof skis. How does the article connect him to Pre? (Except for the fact that he's located where we all remember Pre skis coming from...)
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