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post #31 of 37
You all sound like a bunch of old boys in the bumps: . That's how I normally ski the bumps; slow line fast. I like the flow of that style.

But I like the Dan DiPro's approach, too. Part of me says I'm too old and arthritic to ski the zipper line, but then when I go for it, it's ok. It really isn't as rough on the body as one might expect.

Skiing the slow line fast for me means finished turns, rounded. I find that I can over do the rotation that goes with my style. I feel it in the lower spine.

I like my 724 Pro's in the bumps.
post #32 of 37
For many years I would take a warm up run and then concentrate on high speed skiing until I fatigue and crowds made my prefered style of skiing unsafe, then I would explore other areas of the mountain. Don't want to be doing warp 9 when your not on top of your game.

Last year or the year before, I mixed it up a little bit. I discovered that the bumps get turned to polished ice by skiers and tthe afternoon sun. They are a very different place in the morning. I don't quite know how they magically change back overnight, and maybe it's just coincidence. Whenever I find bumps in the morning they are made of snow, but by mid afternoon they are ice.
post #33 of 37

"Old/tired" skiing style led to shaped skis?

So maybe that's why skis stopped being skinny - everyone who skis is getting too old to do kick turns and hop the edges anymore!

RE: fatties and moguls

This is an interesting topic because after seeing some of the new skis shopping sales at lunch today, all I could think was "how the #^$% am I going to ski bumps with these things?! - They're so FAT!". Complicating this, most of the conditions I face here in the east are ice or hardpacked skied out manmade, including mogul fields.

I'm 41 and tend to ski the tops and backs if possible at this point - look for the snow, stay clear of the troughs for the most part, unless it's relatively flat. Maybe ski every other one in the troughs. I often do that thing someone mentioned where the skis are separated so sometimes it doesn't even look like there are bumps (unless they are really big).

I do agree about preferring that to groomers though ....
post #34 of 37
Originally Posted by jhcooley View Post
I have multiple goals in bumps.

I want it to feel slow and easy. This requires control of all the fundamental skills, but balance is huge. If I get behind my skis, regardless of their width, the turns will feel rushed. It will require way too much effort for my aging, out of shape body, and if I don't get over my skis quickly, I'll have to bail. This requirement for balance above all is totally independent of ski width. The skill blend will vary with ski width, however.
Are you sure it's balance and not looking far enough down the hill. Whe you're not looking far enough in advance, the bumps seem to come up a lot faster. Same principle as looking out the side window of a moving car as opposed to looking out the front windshield.

I want to mix up my turns, if bump shape allows. Some turns I want to pivot-slip, like Rusty Guy said. It's not too surprising. I've had the same mentors. Some turns I want to feed a little more edge and let the ski take a longer, "loopier" line. The slow line. Let that nasty sidecut work for me a bit. Have some patience, let the turn develop. I find this one tougher, but I know another one of those people at WP who does it regularly. It is amazing to watch.

I want to turn anywhere in the bump I feel like. I want to pick the type of turn and the place. I want to play.
In one of my bump clinics years ago, my coach had us make 3 turns on every mogul, topside, top and backside. It was a great exercise, so your prepared no matter where you hit the bump.
post #35 of 37
I don't mind skiing fat skis (i.e. 100-ish waist) in the bumps......just so long as the fat ski in question is fairly straight. It's not very often that I ski true bumps anymore (mainly just in the Spring these days), but when i do, I still go back to my old ex-mogul competitor technique...ski the zipper line as much as possible, "turn" or maybe more accurately pivot all over the place, and go as fast as possible.

Seems most often though my "bump" skiing consists of maching GS style turns through soft, small bump fields in the runouts below airs or in open bowls...I just concentrate on looking ahead, and trying to absorb/extend as much as possilbe to maintain ski / snow contact. Of course, sometimes, it helps to ollie over small bumps mid-turn on purpose to make things a bit smoother.
post #36 of 37
check out the cover of ski magazine and note the number on the base of the ski.

it appears the skier is in bumps and that number isn't the year she was born!
post #37 of 37
Originally Posted by Supraman View Post
Yes and no. If you can rip a zipperline on a pair of mogul specific skis, then yes most likely you can ski decently on something else in teh bumps. I guess my frustration in new gear comes that its getting hard to find a ski that still posesses the ability to rip a zipperline the way its made to be skied (and still be able to hold its own elsewhere). In my opinion, a well skiing ski doesnt shouldnt force you to adjust your style to accomodate what teh ski lacks.

I feel your pain. I ski Killington, VT and they have moguls everywhere. But there is also a good deal of powder, and groomers. I also do a quite a bit of park as well. Found the Salomon CR Lab to be a great ski that sort of does it all (now the salomon SPK). It's designed for Pipe skiing for the pros so it has a super fast base, stiff poppy tails, a (relatively) narrow waste at 79mm, and a good length, 180. The ski carves exceptionally well, and is the fastest ski I have ever been on (I'm not a racer). The only problem with the ski is that suggested mounting point is a bit to close to the center for bump skiing. The tails got in the way a little bit. I toyed around with the idea of moving the bindings back but this would affect the solidity of the ski as well as move the boot away from the sweet spot of the sidecut. The other option is to get a ski caddy to cary your bumps skis around for you when you run into some moguls I've never tried a bump ski all mountain, but beeing a big guy 6-1, 200lbs, I do'nt think a bump ski would work well for me.
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