Hey guys, I was directed via PM to check out this thread and requested to comment. And full disclosure for some of you who may not know -- I'm one of the co-founders of PMGear, but I'll try to be as objective as possible in answering any questions.
MTT already covered the one question I could answer most objectively....that is, how much will they cost this year? The $649 price he quoted is most likely what we will be charging this year. There is a chance that they will be $639, but the final price will be up on our new website (www.pmgearusa.com
, or very soon just www.pmgear.com
) which *should* be going live sometime in September.
Last year we charged $599 and the primary reasons for the cost increase are: 1) This year we finally moved our manufacturing in-house. The past 2 seasons we had to rely on 3rd party manufacturers, but now that we have a little more overhead to worry about with our own pressing equipment, we needed to bump the price up a bit. and 2) This year this skis will come finished. This was a HUGE problem for us last year as the manufacturer we used was shipping the skis out "raw" i.e. bases weren't completely flat in many cases which meant our customers had to spend some extra $$$ to get them ground flat. With our own stone grinders and such this year we'll be spending a bit more of our time finishing the skis before they go out and have a closer eye on QC since we're making & shipping the skis out ourselves now.
Bob -- I don't really want to directly answer your question as to what people like about them because I don't want this to sound like a sales pitch from a biased stakeholder. But I think the reason you haven't see to many in Jackson is that honestly, I think we only sold a handful of skis at the most to the Jackson area. We're based in the Tahoe / Reno area and most of our customers are here, UT, and Colorado. As MTT said earlier, in the past 2 seasons we may have pressed 300 skis max...so we're dealing with super small production runs.
At this time, we've purchased enough materials for approx 400 skis (divided amongst our current 188 and 179 Bro Models) and also materials for new prototypes (fatter skis....a 192 that will be about 143-114-132 and a fatter 179 that will be of similar dimensions as well). We have just one full-time employee who gets paid basically nothing, and the rest of us involved with the company still have our regular full-time jobs so its truly a labor of love and a dream for all of us, and this 400 skis I think might be our limit until we can make some changes on that front. We'll have to see....
I'd be happy to go on more about us....but again, I don't want to this come off as a sales pitch. However, if you would like more info about how we started, our business model (which is going to be more than just skis), and what we're trying to accomplish overall I'd be happy to if there were an interest and if folks here thought it would be appropriate.
Also -- I can always be reached at ron AT pmgearusa DOT com (no, my real name is not Tyrone
Oh and yes, to expand a little further upon what MTT said in a post above. We're hyper sensitive to what our customers say about our skis. We obviously LOVE to hear when people like them....nothing makes me happier than hearing how something that we produced brought smiles to someone on the mountain....but I'm (we're) always more interested in hearing constructive criticism. We absolutely need to....and examples of this are reducing the camber in our skis this year from last (which we received a LOT of criticism on
) and as mentioned above, also putting a better finish on the skis before they go out the door (of which we probably received a LOT more criticism on
Thanks again....I hope I was at least a little helpful w/o sounding too much like an advertisement.