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Perfect Vail ski

post #1 of 11
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I am 6' 160lbs and a level 8 skier. I've skiied the east my entire life, not one trip out west, and now that I'm going to go to college out west, and mainly skiing Vail, I need something wider than my Volkl All-stars. I was wondering what a good all-around ski would be for Vail conditions. I hear people talking about how not every day is a perfect powder day but I don't hear anyone talk about boilerplate when they talk about skiing out west like everyone does in the east. It sounds like the hardpack is much easier to ski than real ice. Hardpack conditions and bump skiing are what really pull me and then push me towards different skis. The skis I have narrowed it down too are the Fischer Kahua, Head Monster i.M 88, K2 Outlaw, Volkl Mantra and Atomic Sugar Daddy. I have heard so many things between how skis float but then they don't ski bumps well. Is there a defined percentage of how much a ski should be good for powder and then also be good for groomers. One more question, how many days out of the ski season does it really snow 10"-12" or more? Thanks.
post #2 of 11
More than 10" in a day is very rare...more likely you'll get 6-8" or so per day over the span of a 2-3 day storm. That usually makes for great skiing by Colorado standards by the 2nd and 3rd days. It seems as if we get just a few of these multi-day storms per year.

As far as skis go, anything in the 85mm + range will handle Colorado powder no problem. Sure you can go fatter but keep in mind that Colorado doesn't get hit with snow like Utah (12" days are common). I can't give any advice on something good in bumps since I stay out of them. I ski Vail frequently with my Legend Pros (194s) and they are incedible...also own a pair of shorter, Mantra (184s) and they are pretty good too though they are probably not the best option for my weight range (195ish).

I highly recommend going to Colorado Ski & Golf's demo day at Loveland which is usually held in November at Loveland. It's worth it to actually ski before you buy and fork over the $20-$25.
post #3 of 11
I'm with jay_p about the demo days. Especially since they often include lunch! Plus, hook up with some Bears and trade thoughts on the various skis you get on.

I'd also tend to go a towards the mid-fats rather than the fats for skiing here for the same reasons jay_p mentions. Truly deep dumps are rare... and when they hit, I'd rather be in the snow than on it, anyway!
post #4 of 11
The most popular brand in Vail are Salomon with the Scrambler Custom or the new X Wings ideal for the mountain.
post #5 of 11
I have skied Colorado front range resorts for 20 years after moving here from the east. Currently for non race skis I ski the Dynastar Legend 8000 (172cm)and Legend 8800 (178cm) skis. If I had to pick only one I would go with the 8000 since there are few big powder days in the Colorado front range and the 8000s are better in bumps and groomers. The 8800s are really good in trees and bumps on powder days by the way. Jay P is right on in his assessment of powder days in the Colorado front range. Powder days greater than 10" do not happen that often. I am 165lbs and 5'11" and ski 50 days a year most often at Mary Jane which gets more snow than Vail and has better bumps. Hard snow is common out here but pure eastern boiler plate is rare. Just keep whatever ever ski you use tuned and you should have no problem. Since you already have All-Stars which will be fine for most days you might consider the 8800s for powder days.
post #6 of 11
A good question, one that I have given a lot of thought to since the flight to get there means taking multiple skis is out of the question.

My choice, K2 Lotta Luvs, husband - Stockli Stormriders.

I have family who live there however, who only seem to own fats - Pocket Rockets and Rossi B3's if I remember rightly, nothing too stiff but they do relish the bumps.
post #7 of 11
I second the 8800 vote.

I'm exactly you're size and they are amazing in trees and pow and aren't really bad in bumps or hard pack. You have the 5 stars for the hard stuff go with the 8800 for the fatter part of the quiver.

P.S. what school are you going to?
post #8 of 11
I did the demo day at Loveland last season and the experience really changed my mind about demoing skis. I don't think I would buy a ski without trying it out first. It was alot of fun. My favorite ski was the Elan M777, which I think would be my perfect ski for Vail. I skied my Nordica Beasts at Vail which are 92 underfoot and soft, I think I would have been better served by a ski that was narrower underfoot and quicker edge to edge. I agree that a ski in the 80 mm range underfoot is probably more suitable for the conditions.
post #9 of 11
you should try out the pmgear bros, good skis from good people
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
P.S. what school are you going to?

I am hoping to go to the Univresity of Colorado at Boulder
post #11 of 11
Originally Posted by briguy806 View Post
P.S. what school are you going to?

I am hoping to go to the Univresity of Colorado at Boulder
If you're at CU, I'll bet you'll spend more time at the other Front Range areas than you will at Vail, anyway. Same skis, only perhaps more trees (depending on who you hook up with to explore them). Vail is the farthest real Front Range area (about 2 hours from Boulder) and also costs $ to park. Copper, Breck, Keystone, A, Loveland, and Winter Park--not to mention Eldora--all are closer and have free parking. You'll want to pick up a pass when you get here, either the Copper/WP or the Colorado Pass (Breck, A, Keystone optionally with 10 days at Vail/BC). Eldora gives CU students a deal, too, I think, and they are an easy bus ride up the canyon.

Not a lot about skis (previous comments still hold), but I don't think Vail will be your top pick most of the time.
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