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Help. Binding screw shredded

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Please help.
I have a pair of classic 1080's (the old yellow ones) which I love.
Problem is one of the toe binding screws is just spinning and cant be tightened. The skis have been drilled before so I dont want to drill for the 3rd time.
I thought about a riser plate on first then remount the bindings...

any ideas?

Pedro
post #2 of 22
How about a heli-coil fixing or a brass insert?
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by spyderjon View Post
How about a heli-coil fixing or a brass insert?
Helicoils are available here http://tognar.com .There is also a great database of repair and tuning methodology too.
post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by pedro View Post
Please help.
I have a pair of classic 1080's (the old yellow ones) which I love.
Problem is one of the toe binding screws is just spinning and cant be tightened. The skis have been drilled before so I dont want to drill for the 3rd time.
I thought about a riser plate on first then remount the bindings...

any ideas?

Pedro
Yep, if the hole is not too far gone, try adding a sliver of scotch brite or wood along the side of the hole. it might take up enough volume to get the screw tight.don't forget to add woood glue
post #5 of 22
Epoxy the hole and re-insert the screw if it is a small one . If it is big enough for a helicoil that is best
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
Epoxy the hole and re-insert the screw if it is a small one . If it is big enough for a helicoil that is best
This is especially effective if you mix the epxoy with a bit of steel wool.
post #7 of 22
That is a foam core ski. You need the helicoil. Shop can install if you are not familiar with the procedure.
post #8 of 22
Use a machinable epoxy. Fill, drill, tap, and remount. Or brass insert, helicoil, redrillable plastic or wooden plug. All will work, best option is whatever the shop worker is familiar with.
post #9 of 22
If I not mistaken, won't the epoxy eat away at the foam core?

I've always been told to use white glue w/foam core skis.
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
That is a foam core ski. You need the helicoil. Shop can install if you are not familiar with the procedure.
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post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 

Thanks

Great help from all.
Helicoil ordered and will be fitted soon.
Brilliant forum.

Pedro
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
If I not mistaken, won't the epoxy eat away at the foam core?

I've always been told to use white glue w/foam core skis.
DEAD WRONG!

Epoxy is perfectly fine for use in ski with a foam core. How the hell do you think that they get the fiberglass to bond to the core?
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier View Post
DEAD WRONG!

Epoxy is perfectly fine for use in ski with a foam core. How the hell do you think that they get the fiberglass to bond to the core?
Thanks for your expertise (says I honestly), delivered with your usual subtlety (says I smartassedly).

Now go getcher self another PBR.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier View Post
DEAD WRONG!

Epoxy is perfectly fine for use in ski with a foam core. How the hell do you think that they get the fiberglass to bond to the core?

Thank's for pointing out, in such a scientific way, what a dumbass I am w/all your intuitive technical explanation of why epoxy is safe to use w/foam...Such tact!

With that in mind, I did find out that most epoxies are perfectly safe to use w/foam. I mistaked the foam issue w/CA glues...My bad.

Now I'll go take what's left of my shattered ego and dump epoxy all over my Rossi's...
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
Thank's for pointing out, in such a scientific way, what a dumbass I am w/all your intuitive technical explanation of why epoxy is safe to use w/foam...Such tact!

With that in mind, I did find out that most epoxies are perfectly safe to use w/foam. I mistaked the foam issue w/CA glues...My bad.

Now I'll go take what's left of my shattered ego and dump epoxy all over my Rossi's...
Sorry!

I guess I should have realized that common sense isnt so common.:
post #16 of 22
If I'm in doubt (i.e. any time I use a new-to-me adhesive), 2 practical checks before I use it:

styrofoam cup
urethane (i use old inline skate wheels)
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier View Post
Sorry!

I guess I should have realized that common sense isnt so common.:
I'm sorry, but through my lack of common sense I didn't realize that further insulting of a person was an acceptable form of an apology.:

Besides, it wasn't your superior intelect which was questioned, but rather the insulting demeanor of your delivery, which is a complete lack of respect for someone you have no real knowledge of.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
I'm sorry, but through my lack of common sense I didn't realize that further insulting of a person was an acceptable form of an apology.:

Besides, it wasn't your superior intelect which was questioned, but rather the insulting demeanor of your delivery, which is a complete lack of respect for someone you have no real knowledge of.
I was not apologizing for my post this your lack of knowledge. The demeanor of my delivery wasnt insulting either. Just trying to point out an OBVIOUS fact. If you dont know weather or not Epoxy is safe to use on skis, than you have NO BUSINESS at all in replacing binding screws as you OBVIOUSLY lack the PROPER training, and Knowledge to do so properly and safely.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier View Post
I was not apologizing for my post this your lack of knowledge. The demeanor of my delivery wasnt insulting either. Just trying to point out an OBVIOUS fact. If you dont know weather or not Epoxy is safe to use on skis, than you have NO BUSINESS at all in replacing binding screws as you OBVIOUSLY lack the PROPER training, and Knowledge to do so properly and safely.
Actually I don't do any of that kind of work to skis anyways, which, by the way, I never implied to be ANY type of expert on the subject.

I was merely asking a VERY simple question to which you answered, but in an extremely rude and offensive manner...Besides, I already stated that my original post on the subject was a momentary lapse in judgement anyway...This doesn't make me a stupid moron which is what you are attempting to imply.

I don't understand your rudeness in this matter at all, especially considering that your blanket statement is that if someone doesnt know all the technical facts about a specific subject and therefore didn't make a logical/common sense connection that they are therefore inferior.

I'm sure there are plenty of subjects where I have a vast superior knowledge than youre's of which certain elements would seem logical/common sense to me but which you would not make a connection between the various elements involved.

With this in mind, I choose to not continue an EXTREMELY stupid flame war with you and jack someone else's thread.

Good day to you.
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 
Didnt know my first post would cause so much of a problem.

Have fitted a helicoil....
even my wee sister couldnt pull it out when fitted.

not sure now if it will be ok, but when it comes out i will curse my stupidty and hope im not to far from the bottom of the slopes.

thanks for the entertainment.

Pedro (still laughing)
post #21 of 22
There has been a great article that investigates the affect of epoxy on foam core skis, written by Lou Dawson. Mtbakerskier probably just forgot how he came by his common sense. Anyway, this link is good reading if you want to brush up on your epoxy and foam resume. Lou Dawson Link

Pedro, glad the helicoil worked out. I've used them to repair ripped out bindings, even in wood core skis, and of course to fasten a derailer on an aluminum frame bike.
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by mtbakerskier View Post
I was not apologizing for my post this your lack of knowledge. The demeanor of my delivery wasnt insulting either. Just trying to point out an OBVIOUS fact. If you dont know weather or not Epoxy is safe to use on skis, than you have NO BUSINESS at all in replacing binding screws as you OBVIOUSLY lack the PROPER training, and Knowledge to do so properly and safely.
Geez man 7 spelling mistakes. It's a good thing you know about epoxy 'cause your spelling is pretty sh!t.

....this world's gone crazy........
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