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Need skis! Please help me decide...

post #1 of 13
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Hello all,

I found this site a few weeks ago - what a wealth of information!

I am a male, 6' ~185 lbs and 25 yrs old. I grew up skiing (high school ski club - the most fun I've ever had), but on old straight skis (had K2s for a long time). I have just recently (last few years) started skiing again since I can now afford it I ski fairly aggressively and despite my straight ski background I'm a decent carver. I enjoy blue and black trails (yes, "Western" blacks as well), and would like to ski limited bumps and powder (if I can find any!). I've been renting for a while, and I really feel like they are limiting me in my skiing.

This year I'm looking to ski 15-20 days if I can - 1 week in Breckenridge and the rest at little midwest pimples and also a few smaller eastern resorts.

I'm looking for a ski that can handle the conditions in both the East and West (common problem, I know). I've been reading this forum and other resources for days trying to find the "right ski". Currently I'm leaning toward the Fischer RX8 due to the rave reviews around here, but I am open to other suggestions. I think the RX8s would be awesome for most of the eastern skiing I'll be doing, but I worry about how well they'll preform out West, especially if I take them in some powder. Due to this, I've also been considering the "All mountain" types - Atomic Metron (M9/10, B5?), Volkl AC3, and Head Monster iM 72. I've never skied a ski with a wide waist before so I'm worried about how difficult it would be. Opinions? I'm sure it would be great in some powder, but what about groomers? All of these skies have great reviews... my head is swimming and I just can't decide!

Due to my location and the time of year, I'm unable to demo any of these skis. Also, I'd like to buy them when they're on sale (i.e. now), because money is an issue. I figure I've been skiing whatever junky rentals they give me quite well, so it shouldn't throw me off too much to buy decent skis based on recommendations

So Bears, any opinions or advice to help me make my choice? I would greatly appreciate input. Sorry for the length of the post and if I've left anything out.
post #2 of 13
http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=fischerrx820 06&Category_Code=fischerrx2006&Product_Count=1
Here is your deal on the Rx-8's
For the west you would want a fatter ski. Why not buy for the conditions you ski the most at and when you ski out west demo some fatties or some of the great midfats like the Dynastar 8800;s, Stockli Stormriders, K2 Recons, Volkl Mantras. Pmgear Bros. all very nice western skis.
If you ski mostly on hard snow . The rx8's,rx-9's. Volkl 5 stars or Allstars. Atomic m11's. Check the search feature and see what piques your interest.

Check back here and get some new ideas.
Welcome to Epicski.
post #3 of 13
I won't try to comment on your choices of skis, as I've never been on any of them (I'm an Elan junkie). However, as for your comments regarding waist width: one of my skis (Elan Magfire 10) has a 75mm waist; my other (Elan S12) has a 68mm waist. I can certainly feel a difference between them; the Magfires just go over anything, the S12's go through.

But as for their hard-snow carving prowess (and I'm a New England-er; plenty of practice at that !), they both work just fine. I can't say there's any appreciable difference in the time it takes to switch edges during a turn transition. Unless you're seriously racing (where a delayed turn engagement can produce big problems), then I'd suggest going for something a little wider then the RX8. Judging from the tip-waist-tail dimensions of the RX8, I'm guessing it has the flotation of a depth charge. Why work harder or rent powder skis for those deep-snow days when you can get a mid-fat-ish ski that has 95%+ of the holding power and is soooooooo much easier in powder?
post #4 of 13
I know a lot of people have an "anti-Rossi/ foam core" bias, but the Rossi Z9s are a lot of fun, too. They can handle a wide range of conditions (and may be a bit of a counterpoint to the Metrons - same idea, different feel).
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Any thoughts on midfats?

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I tend to agree with Kevin... I don't really want to have to rent skis when I go out west. I've got a sporttube I need to put to use and also my wife would certainly not appreciate me buying skis only to go rent other ones for a week come January.

I'll probably be skiing 15-25 days this winter. I've already got a week in Breckenridge planned... hopefully I'll make another trip west with friends if I'm lucky, the rest of the skiing in the east and midwest. So really, I could be looking at about half and half.

So are there midfats that are better on hard, eastern conditions than others? Does anybody have any experience skiing the Metron 9/10, Head Monster iM 72, or Volkl AC3 in both conditions? I haven't heard much about the Magfires...

Alberto - the Z9s reminded me of the Metrons when I saw them - similar dimensions. I've never really been fond of Rossis though so I'd be hesitant to buy without trying first... sorry if I'm adding to the bias It might be because that is always what they rent out everywhere I go and I'd like to be on something different!
post #6 of 13
i think the volkl AC3 would be a nice match for your needs. you really should try to demo a few in that range and not go on other people's suggestions though. i happen to like volkl performance on hard park more than other models. but i like dynastar performance on natural snow. but that is just me based on my preferences.
post #7 of 13
No worries! Metrons are very popular where I am at and, while I liked them, I found that the Z9s were far more forgiving while allowing me to have fun in a huge range of conditions (a ski racer actually put me on to them on a day when I was demoing Metron M10s and 11s). After a week at Breckenridge, you sure you will be able to leave?
post #8 of 13
Hey! There are AC-3's in the gear swap for sale now and look to be a good value for the money
post #9 of 13

New Skis

Just some general comments: (pertaining to discussion/mention of Metrons and Rossi Z9's) These are just my personal observations/experiences and may not be of importance to you or anyone else for that matter.

While lookingfor an all mt. ski I skied the Z9 and the Metron B5. My opinions Z9 very good in short radius turns, moguls, powder. I did not like in med radius turns and definitely didn't like at high speed med to SG turns. B5 good in all conditions and speeds. I am 5'11" 193lbs and a strong skier, all conditions. Skier a lot of powder, trees etc., liv e in the West/Northern Idaho where the snow is very good and ice rare. Skied Mammoth and Tahoe 04-05 with B5's and they performed very well on hard pack and ice. Mr personal comments/opinion is that the B5 is a demanding ski but very forgiving (I hope that makes sense). The only drawback for me was a lack of comfortable high speed cruising or ripping etc. I bought some Fischer RX9's last year for that. Looking at Bro's for this years trip-s into Canada. Don't overlook the obvious, if you decide what you want post a wanted ad here on Epic. Bought my wife somenew Atomic REX's last year for $300 with binds. Good luck have a great winter and when in doubt DEMO DEMO DEMO.
post #10 of 13
I can't speak at all to the Volkl's, though I hear they're great. I have tried all the rest. I wasn't a huge fan of the Metrons, but I think that simply went hand in hand with me not being a big fan of the Atomic reps (Good skis for sure, I just wasn't wowed). I found the Head IM 72 to be pretty good all around, but not really great anywhere (again no wow factor for me).

The Rossi Z9's were my favourite ski to try in that class of ski, though I would really love to check out similar Volkls, Fischers, etc. Just my impressions of course, despite our similar physiques (6'0, 195 lbs, age 20) I've always been more of a freerider, and it sounds like you have more of a carving background. I hope my input helps!
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Purchased!

Thanks for all the advice guys...

I've just purchased a pair of Monster im72 (with Railflex bindings!) for $377.99 + shipping. I just couldn't pass up that deal, since it was way cheaper than I've seen any of the other skies on my list going for. I'll ski them this winter and if I don't like them, to Ebay they'll go!

Thanks againg for all the helpful comments
post #12 of 13
Nice ski and better deal . I hope you are satisfied with them and think you will be,
Happy skiing to you.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by LexingtonSkier View Post
Thanks for all the advice guys...

I've just purchased a pair of Monster im72 (with Railflex bindings!) for $377.99 + shipping. I just couldn't pass up that deal, since it was way cheaper than I've seen any of the other skies on my list going for. I'll ski them this winter and if I don't like them, to Ebay they'll go!

Thanks againg for all the helpful comments
Very good choice.
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