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Mangled 1200 piston binding courtesy of Delta

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
My local ski shop is still closed for the season so I figured I'd ask some of the talented people here. Last season Delta ended up mangling one of my bindings(Titanium 1200 piston) on my brand new, virgin, Fischer RX8s on a ski trip to Sunday River.

My questions are, does Marker still make this binding and if not do they still sell parts in order to repair them? Also how much will I be looking at to repair or replace? The skis seem to be OK and the camber appears to be normal.

When the skis finally got to me after being lost over Cincinatti for three days the bag was shredded and actually had tire tracks on the intact portion of it. If you value your gear BEWARE OF DELTA!!
post #2 of 17
Why didn't you report this to Delta and get them to replace your damaged items?

No idea about binding parts.
post #3 of 17
Do you have a picture of the problem? Is it just the plastic cover plate over the DIN, or what is the damage? I had a new pair of Marker AT PCOS bindings and got replacement parts free from Marker when a snowboarder collided with me and sheared off a piece of the binding. Maybe, Contact Marker.
post #4 of 17
watch out for NorthWest too. They sent my gear to cancun, no lie, when i was in Jackson. Luckily no damage.

Did you have soft things like clothes packed around the skis? Id go after them, but since its so late after the incident, i dont know if Delta will play ball or not.
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
I did have clothing packed around the skis however it was all mostly gone when I received my bag ( probably from the numerous drag holes). Delta also has a lovely policy in which it only replaces apparrel not equipment that is damaged. So in order to recoup the money from a broken ski and a blown trip I had to exaggerate the quality of ski apparel that I had lost(Columbia became Cloudveil). I feel terrible for having to lie but it was the only way I was going to get any money out of the bastards. Even the girl at their ticket counter in a round about way told me that this was the only way to get them to pay for all the havoc they wreaked upon my peacefull ski vacation. Not to mention on the way back we were delayed for 3 hours while sitting on the plane waiting to de-ice at Logan airport and when we finally got in the air, the AC system malfunctioned and leaked water on me and my daughter for the entire 1 and 1/2 hour trip back to Baltimore.

I actually used to like Delta but now I will never fly them again, not even if I was a Lebanese American and they were boarding the last flight out of Beirut.

If you do fly with them make sure your ski case is made out of titanium and plan to see your gear in a couple days!!
post #6 of 17
If you put your equipment on a plane or otherwise in the hands of others, especially in soft-sided luggage, these things are just about guaranteed to happen at some point. I'm fairly certain that it occurs relatively equally across airlines. Now what may be unequal is the replacement/compensation policy when such events occur. So it probably would be a good idea to be aware of such policies before you get yourself into such a situation. Personally, I put my gear on planes in soft sided bags without this knowledge and while I'd be upset if the same thing happened to me, I don't think I'd say that I wouldn't fly XYZ airline ever again, because eventually I'm going to run out of airlines. At some level, if you want the (occasional?) convenience of the airlines, you'll have to accept the fact that the system is inherently flawed and is frustration waiting to happen.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by Rocket82nd
I did have clothing packed around the skis however it was all mostly gone when I received my bag ( probably from the numerous drag holes). Delta also has a lovely policy in which it only replaces apparrel not equipment that is damaged. So in order to recoup the money from a broken ski and a blown trip I had to exaggerate the quality of ski apparel that I had lost(Columbia became Cloudveil). I feel terrible for having to lie but it was the only way I was going to get any money out of the bastards. Even the girl at their ticket counter in a round about way told me that this was the only way to get them to pay for all the havoc they wreaked upon my peacefull ski vacation. Not to mention on the way back we were delayed for 3 hours while sitting on the plane waiting to de-ice at Logan airport and when we finally got in the air, the AC system malfunctioned and leaked water on me and my daughter for the entire 1 and 1/2 hour trip back to Baltimore.

I actually used to like Delta but now I will never fly them again, not even if I was a Lebanese American and they were boarding the last flight out of Beirut.

If you do fly with them make sure your ski case is made out of titanium and plan to see your gear in a couple days!!
Ahhh, the trip from hell. We've all been on one of those at one time or another. I've had 2 ski vacations marred by airlines, both times with my wife. Once United destroyed 2 pair of skis on the way to Utah, and another time Northworst (connection to Alaska Airlines) lost our luggage on the way to Whistler.

Ski-3PO is right. You'll run out of airlines. If you had reasons to like Delta, you're just as well to stay with them than to get PO'd by another airline. Unfortunately for me, I'm stuck with United because all my business travel has to be with them, and therefore, all my FF miles are with them. Granted, I've had some lousy experiences, including my trip to Las Vegas last week (my reservation got lost in the ether), but I've also had plenty of uneventful trips and dealt with some reasonable customer service people. I've also never been charged extra (so far... knock on wood) for my hard case with my skis. I often have to go to Denver, so I sometimes take skis with me and take an extra day on my business trips to ski with some friends.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Let me not put all the blame solely on Delta. It was actually delta's co-company Comair who the flight was with. However if Delta is going to put their name on the plane it better take the responsibility as well.

Delta and US Air (and their carriers) did have the worst records in 2005 for lost luggage which was also a large increase over previous years. I'm sure it had something to do with the bankruptcy and they started cutting corners. Unfortunately, my skis ended up being one of those corners.Thats OK, Southwest has one of the best records and if I'm going to roll the dice and check my skis you can bet its going to be with them next time!

money.cnn.com/2006/02/17/news/companies/airline_passenger_problems/

Sorry to get away from the subject of this thread but I'm still a little sore about this fiasco. I'll try and post some pictures of my binding this evening. Thanks!
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sorry, this should be it...

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/17/news...nger_problems/

If the link doesnt work again you can type it into the browser if your really interested in the article.
post #10 of 17
i currently have a dakine double concourse bag. It did well with NW air but after watching a few bags get thrown to the tarmac from a plane i may be taking drastic measures. I dont know yet, but i might tear out the padding, put in some rigid plastic, like delryn or such machinable plastic and epoxy it in, then the padding over it, so i dont have holes with lost gear. It pisses me off that I have to make a bullet proof bag for my skis when im paying $450 to get somewhere. for these prices they should treat my gear like a live bomb
post #11 of 17
You will never fully armor a soft case. If you travel a lot, a Sportube hard case is what you are looking for.
If you use wide skis and need to carry more than one pair, be sure to check out the ST-3 series. The two ski packs just get too tight at the bindings.
http://www.prolineracks.com/ski-snow...age-cases.html
post #12 of 17
Still not convinced of the need to armor.

I've had a full case of 750ml bottles in a wheeled duffel on every ski trip since 1992.

Not one has broken.
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post
Still not convinced of the need to armor.

I've had a full case of 750ml bottles in a wheeled duffel on every ski trip since 1992.

Not one has broken.

This is called..... "Dodging the Bullet"!!!
post #14 of 17
Contact Marker, and the odds are that they will replace the damaged binding with very little hassle.
post #15 of 17
If they balk at all, contact me, and I'll assist you in replacing the binding...
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vail snopro View Post
If they balk at all, contact me, and I'll assist you in replacing the binding...
Cool! Thanks a lot! I'll pm you shortly.
post #17 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
You will never fully armor a soft case. If you travel a lot, a Sportube hard case is what you are looking for.
If you use wide skis and need to carry more than one pair, be sure to check out the ST-3 series. The two ski packs just get too tight at the bindings.
http://www.prolineracks.com/ski-snow...age-cases.html
Nice link Cirque I like the looks of the double. Then I can travel with two pairs and use the one that fits my mood/conditions that day and have all the bases covered.
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