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Favorite Winter Tire

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
So what's your preferred/favorite winter tire. And why?

Mine: Dunlop Wintersport M3 (H rated). Why:The thing I have always hated about winter tires is, that while they give you good/great perfomance on snow and ice, they sucked at speeds over 50 mph. I have used the Dunlop Graspic and Nolkian Hakk.. (can't remember how it is spelled, but its the Q rated one). Superb tires at low speed. Highly effective on ice and snow. At 55mph you felt like your wheels were out of alignment.

However, the M3 while a just little less effective on ice and snow as the above mentioned tires, drives as well as an "all" (three) season tire at speed. At 70 MPH it performs as well as any H rated tire.

Bottom line: The M3 gives me the safety of a winter tire with the performance of an all season tire.
post #2 of 26
I"ve had my Michelins the latest snows from Michlin (X-ice I think), up to 160 kph without any drama, and they do pretty good in snow and ice. They don't have the same grip as my summer rubber, Michlin Pilots or Fireston PV41s though. Everytime I find a half decent summer tire that fits my wagon they stop making them in that size (15 inch rims).
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Everytime I find a half decent summer tire that fits my wagon they stop making them in that size (15 inch rims).
Ever consider going to 16s? I got tired of not finding the tire I wanted in a 15. Went to 16s. Worth the price in performance gain. (see tirerack.com)
post #4 of 26
i have the toyo proxxes tire on my scooby wrx. I havent run them in the winter yet but my dad had them on the minivan. He loved them. They pulled us through 18" in lake george. Well see in a few months at school how they do on my car
post #5 of 26
anything with tons of metal in it. studs rock.
post #6 of 26
Hopefully my luck doesn't run out, but in 32 years of driving (28 including Colorado, mid-west, upper midwest/Dakotas, North Carolina, and New England winters) I've never owned a set of snow tires.

Covers about 800,000 miles of driving, RWD, FWD, 4WD, and AWD vehicles, never been stuck, 1 accident when I was 16 (hydroplaned and took out a mailbox). I certainly know the value of them, but so far have done "OK" without 'em.
post #7 of 26
blizzaks.

i typically buy a new set every winter and sell my year old tires. i think i have tried everything with the exception of gislaveds.

on a typical morning i fight to get out of my driveway at 9200 feet, my dirt road is snowpacked with whatever fell overnight. by the time i get halfway to the resort the road is dry.

the blizzaks seem to do well.
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rusty Guy
blizzaks.

i typically buy a new set every winter and sell my year old tires. i think i have tried everything with the exception of gislaveds.

on a typical morning i fight to get out of my driveway at 9200 feet, my dirt road is snowpacked with whatever fell overnight. by the time i get halfway to the resort the road is dry.

the blizzaks seem to do well.
9200 feet! I salute you sir. I'm at 4000 and have the need for winter tires.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by SNPete
Ever consider going to 16s? I got tired of not finding the tire I wanted in a 15. Went to 16s. Worth the price in performance gain. (see tirerack.com)
Every time I buy summer tires, but then I think of how many lift tickets the price of 4 "wheels" would work out to. I remember when you could buy rims for 50 bucks a piece. Now it seems you have to buy fancy chrome things for 200 bucks a pop.
post #10 of 26
Nokian RSis for winter only snow/ice/rain and all around performance/economy. They last too.

Nokian WRs for a bit more "all season" version if you're going to want them other than in the winter.

I had some studdable Hakka2s and 1s that were great in the snow but they are loud and not as practical for dry pavement most of the time.
post #11 of 26
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S M+S

I have these on 3 of our cars. A 05 Audi S4 Avant, a 03 Audi A4 1.8T Q & a 02 Jetta GLS 1.8T.

Impeccable all around performance, Wet, Dry, & snow.
Quiet and amazingly comfortable ride even in my S4 which sports 235/40 ZR 18's.

I drove from Seattle to Sun peaks in the S4 in the worst blizzard i have ever experienced. # of us in the car with a box and all oof our gear, & snow blowing over the hood. The michelins and Quattro wer nothing short of amazing.

Also performed flawlessly in an ice storm at Schweitzer mountain, Idaho. The storm intensified and was solid ice form Sandpoint, ID to Ellensburg, Washington about 5 hours of driving. The precipitation in Ellensburg was hitting the ground and instantaneously freezing. Everything from Sandpoint to E. burg was covered in a sheet of ice.

Again the Quattro & Michelin combo was flawless. We decided to spend the nght in ellensburg, Wa since snoqualmie pass was closed. Many of our racing friends ended up sleeping in their cars on the highway. The pass opened at 1:00 Pm the next day!
post #12 of 26
I run snow shoes on our cars but tend to get lower end ones, Hankooks, Dunlops, ect. I need a tire that is still good on dry as it is on the snow.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Every time I buy summer tires, but then I think of how many lift tickets the price of 4 "wheels" would work out to. I remember when you could buy rims for 50 bucks a piece. Now it seems you have to buy fancy chrome things for 200 bucks a pop.
Have you tried to buy steel wheels at Canadian Tire? They have many sizes, and just might fit your car.
post #14 of 26
I second the Blizzaks. I get better traction on the 2WD w/ Blizzaks than I do w/ my wife's 4WD.

Powdr
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by madmanmlh
i have the toyo proxxes tire on my scooby wrx. I havent run them in the winter yet but my dad had them on the minivan. He loved them. They pulled us through 18" in lake george. Well see in a few months at school how they do on my car
If you're talking about the Proxes4, Yuccchh...I hope your car handles snow with them better than mine does. I can't understand how they rate them M+S....
I put Pirelli P6's on my 1996 Audi A6 as a summer tire, and when I got caught in the occassional snowstorm, they performed admirably. My Winter tires on that car where Nokian Hakkapolita 2 studded, They were amazing in everything including dry pavement (except for the noise).
I did get stuck once on a back road coming out of my driveway. We got 3 feet of snow, and they didn't plow the road yet. I moved about 75 feet and my car (and all 4 tires) got lifted off the road. I got my shovel out of the trunk and was able to dig enough snow out to back up. then I plowed ahead 50 feet, backed up 10, dug a little, plowed ahead another 50 feet, backed up 10, etc. till I got to the plowed road. I still made it to open the mountain at 7:30 that day but missed the free breakfast.
My 2000 Audi A4 came with Toyo Proxes4, and although they were good in the summer, last winter I got caught in an early 4 inches of snow before I mounted my winter tires, and it felt like I were on slicks. The car was uncontrollable. It was so bad, I left my winter tires on until June, for fear of catching a May snowfall.
Now for my A4 winter tires, Hakkapolita 2(no studs). Fantastic on snow, and they stick like glue on dry pavement, they're even great in the rain, and they wear well. I can't get them to break loose. Those few times when I get surprised, I just cut the wheel and the car goes where I put it, no matter what the speed.
I can't wait for the Toyo's to wear out so I can replace them with something more all-round....
post #16 of 26
I was very happy with our two sets of Nokian WRs this past winter. They can be used all-season with no problems, though we still switch them out b/c our summer tires have a lot of life left in them.
post #17 of 26
Nokian, Gislaved, Blizzaks, Nokian and others depending on the specific model all can make excellent winter tires. However, there are some design biases and compromises involved with the various brands and models. Sound like skis?

Some tires do better on ice vs. some that do better in softer, deeper snow. Some are designed with a hard, dry road bias with occasional snow or ice conditions. As might be expected, the latter category delivers a smoother, quieter ride on dry pavement but doesn't do quite as well in icy or very snowy conditions. For myself, I use Gislaved NordFrost III's with studs which work extremely well in black ice type road conditions.
post #18 of 26
I've been using Dunlop Graspic's for the last three years (on my second set of 4). The RWD Lincoln has been a champ getting to MRG over the gap. I've carried chains but so far (knock wood) have not needed them.

Yes a little squirrely at speeds over 75 so I don't go that fast, but cheap.
post #19 of 26
I've heard Continental Viking is supposed to be good in snow from some European friends. Although I've not been able to find it here in USA.
post #20 of 26

Pirelli P-Nero Zero

You don't mention for what kind of car. If you are looking for tires for a performance car I would look into Pirellis. I drive a Saab Cabriolet (but only infrequently in the winter when I'm not in my 4WD). Last year I needed to replace a pair of Michelin Pilot low profiles which I was not very happy with unless the road was bone dry (in which event they rocked).

I was looking for a low profile high performance all season radial and after some research I went with a Pirelli P-Nero Zero. I have been extremely satisfied. My wet pavement problems are gone. These things work great with the Saab front wheel drive in anything up to six inches of slush. Nonetheless they are also great speed tires on dry pavement and corner in the Saab like it was on rails.

If you are looking for something more exotic and don't want to pay an arm a leg you should also check out the Tire Rack on line. I live in the greater NYC area and surprisingly had a hard time finding anyone who had snows or all season for the Saab in stock, especially in high performance. So I ordered from Tire Rack at 3 pm and the tires showed up by 11 am two days later. Amazing service.
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by viking kaj
You don't mention for what kind of car. If you are looking for tires for a performance car I would look into Pirellis. I drive a Saab Cabriolet (but only infrequently in the winter when I'm not in my 4WD). Last year I needed to replace a pair of Michelin Pilot low profiles which I was not very happy with unless the road was bone dry (in which event they rocked).

I was looking for a low profile high performance all season radial and after some research I went with a Pirelli P-Nero Zero. I have been extremely satisfied. My wet pavement problems are gone. These things work great with the Saab front wheel drive in anything up to six inches of slush. Nonetheless they are also great speed tires on dry pavement and corner in the Saab like it was on rails.

If you are looking for something more exotic and don't want to pay an arm a leg you should also check out the Tire Rack on line. I live in the greater NYC area and surprisingly had a hard time finding anyone who had snows or all season for the Saab in stock, especially in high performance. So I ordered from Tire Rack at 3 pm and the tires showed up by 11 am two days later. Amazing service.
Had P-Zero-nero's they drove OK but wore like they were made of gum Didn't last worth a darn. My Pilot A/s are far superior, but I have all-wheel drive. Also had Pirelli's on an allroad. wore out extremely quickly.
post #22 of 26
Michelin Cross terrains on my AWD Astro have done great for me..

Still have not put on my chains since getting these tires. Pretty quiet and great traction on wet and dry and great traction in snow and ice, so much so that I pulled about 10 cars and trucks including several 4wd/AWD's out of snowbanks this season.
Considering what Calif Sierra storms are like I think that says a lot..

DC
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by dchan
Michelin Cross terrains on my AWD Astro have done great for me..

Still have not put on my chains since getting these tires. Pretty quiet and great traction on wet and dry and great traction in snow and ice, so much so that I pulled about 10 cars and trucks including several 4wd/AWD's out of snowbanks this season.
Considering what Calif Sierra storms are like I think that says a lot..

DC
I put Cross terrains on my wife's SUV, I couldn't believe how much better that truck drove, sweet tire for the price.
Atomicman, is the Michelin your 4 season tire? I switch on both my Audi's, (A6-Pirelli P6/Hakka2 studded, A4-Toyo Proxes4\Hakka2) but since the P6 are pretty good in snow, and the Hakka on that car is almost ready to get replaced, I'm thinking of going year round on one of the cars (with either the P6 or buy Mich Pilot A/S to replace the Toyo).
P.S. anyone wanna buy some used, but still has too much life to toss, Toyo Proxes4.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by 2-turn
I put Cross terrains on my wife's SUV, I couldn't believe how much better that truck drove, sweet tire for the price.
Atomicman, is the Michelin your 4 season tire? I switch on both my Audi's, (A6-Pirelli P6/Hakka2 studded, A4-Toyo Proxes4\Hakka2) but since the P6 are pretty good in snow, and the Hakka on that car is almost ready to get replaced, I'm thinking of going year round on one of the cars (with either the P6 or buy Mich Pilot A/S to replace the Toyo).
P.S. anyone wanna buy some used, but still has too much life to toss, Toyo Proxes4.
I run the Pilot A/s all 4 seasons, absolutly no reason to change they are excellent.

I had Bridestone S0-2 Pole Positions on my 98 A6 Q, and switched to Michelin Arctic alpin's in the winter. that worked well.

I would skip the P6's. they don't wear worth a damn & are noisy.

I goota admit everytime i have used something other then Michelin I am disapointed.

I also should have mentioned the Cross Terrains on our 01 Yukon denali XL got 50K out of them and great in the snow. Had Michelin LTX on a 93 Suburban they were good but i find the crossterrain better. Although I think some of it has to do with the all-wheel drive of the denali versus the old 4X4 suburban.

I currently have about 21,000 miles on the Pilot A/s on my S4 and they still look new! The P6's and Nero's barely lasted that long!
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
I run the Pilot A/s all 4 seasons, absolutly no reason to change they are excellent.
I would skip the P6's. they don't wear worth a damn & are noisy.

I goota admit everytime i have used something other then Michelin I am disapointed.
I currently have about 21,000 miles on the Pilot A/s on my S4 and they still look new! The P6's and Nero's barely lasted that long!
I think I'm on my 3rd set of P6s, and have about 80k miles on them combined, and this set has 2 summers on them prolly about 25Kmiles, and still look new, so I'm getting good mileage out of them.... I may check out the Michelins to replace the Toyos, and first snowfall see which are worse and use the good winter tires there.
post #26 of 26

Michelins

I made it through around 2 feet of snow at the beginning of the 7 foot dump in (Evergreen) Colorado a few years ago. I was in a Honda Accord with Michelin all season tires. I did get stuck once with some help it was a quick push out. I ended up getting some Hakkepelitas which blasted through deep snow very well and had very forgiving handling characteristics for a front wheel drive car, however their ice grip was about the same as the Michelins.

On my current car (an old 325i) I use Blizzacks, which have been great in what I've driven them on (nothing horrible so far). They're pretty bad on dry pavement compared to my cheap, no-name brand summer tires.
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