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Go east, old man!

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
WHAT IF you were going to tell a "western skier" to ski someplace in the east, where would it be? assuming the snow's gonna be the amount and quality y'all easterners dream of and sometimes get.
your advice depends on your sensibility.maybe you want said skier to experience the kind of "eastern" skiing that most closely resembles "western" skiing; or maybe you'd want the skier to have a classic northeastern ski experience. which way would you point? why?
post #2 of 29
3 words for classic eastern skiing....

Mad River Glen
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post #4 of 29
I'll triple that notion. Classic New England skiing means narrow, winding trails through the woods, and MRG delivers.

It is a very tranquil place on trail, since the lift capacity and ticket sales are limited. And the woods are open for your exploration. Nasty woods (tore my acl in the woods to the right of the double). Mythical, even haunting in a way, with the sense that you've stepped back in time, and you have when you ride the Single. There are few resorts in NE (the world?) that offer the feel of off-piste adventure while skiing on marked trails. Runs like Paradise and Fall Line are unforgettable, if you can find them.

As they say, "Ski it if you can".
post #5 of 29
Gee. I'd send 'em to Blue Hills in Boston or Mountain Creek, New Jersey so they could get the full New England experience. Killington on Thanksgiving? Huntah on MLK weekend?

I'd probably point them at Sugarloaf. It's remote enough that it doesn't get bombed with people, it skis big, it gets reasonable natural snowfall and is far enough north to escape many of the thaws, it has a pretty good sample of classic New England terrain, and it actually has a servicable base village.

Jay Peak and Smuggs are pretty fair spots, too. Stowe is superb midweek.
post #6 of 29
Go to Mtn. High. East.
post #7 of 29
Jay or Sugarloaf
post #8 of 29
depends what the said western skier is up for really. if they really want to know what New England skiing is all about, i'd agree with above suggestions: MRG and I'd add Cannon and Wildcat in there too. classic trails (cut steep, narrow with lots o turns), varying snow conditions (read -> ice&bumps), and classic feel without resort atmosphere. sugarloaf is a resort, but still offers great N.E. skiing.

if the said western skiier is looking for something close to west snow conditions, i'd say go to jay as it gets the most natural snow hands down.

looking for a resort? why come all the way out here to ski straight cruisers on smaller mountains? maybe see sugarloaf or sugarbush. not many 'resorts' in N.E. offer 'classic' N.E. cut trails and experience. kinda hard to get that rugged N.E. skiing feel while skiing at a resort.
post #9 of 29
stowe would be on my list of classic n.e. areas.
post #10 of 29
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phil Pugliese:

Mad River Glen

All in favor say "aye"
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post #13 of 29
Jay . . . twice the snow, 1/4 the attitude.
post #14 of 29
I learned to ski on the east coast as a kid. For someone coming from the west I would say that Stowe gives a great overall sense of both New England and New England skiing.
post #15 of 29
Stowe definitely conveys the beauty and character of a classic New England town.

I was only at Jay once, and that was the weekend they had to close the parking lot, there was so much snow. I actually found skiing at Jay Peak more challenging than Whistler/Blackcomb.

Sugarloaf is also spectacular. Even though its an ASC property, it has the feel of an "older" resort. No attitude problems, either.
post #16 of 29
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I was only at Jay once, and that was the weekend they had to close the parking lot, there was so much snow. I actually found skiing at Jay Peak more challenging than Whistler/Blackcomb. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Say what?
post #17 of 29
I guess I need to elaborate. Total whiteout conditions made it impossible to see where I was skiing. Ended up in a few places I probably should not have been. Also, when I've been to Whistler, there was lots of rain. I don't remember being in powder that was quite so deep out there. Could be the fact that Jay does not do alot of grooming. Also, for someone at my level, I didn't find that many big wide trails at Jay. So there was a smaller margin of acceptable error. Once you made a commitment to ski a certain run, there were not many bail out alternatives. Or maybe there were, but you couldn't see them in a whiteout.

But we are talking about a low intermediate skier, here. I realize that for an expert, what I just said was a total joke.
post #18 of 29
Got it. At W/B, a low-intermediate pretty much gets stuck on the Emerald chair, high traffic midmountain groomers at Blackcomb, and on groomed roads and connecting trails. That wouldn't be particularly interesting. Don't write the place off though. The advanced terrain there is pretty special.
post #19 of 29
Geoff, by the time I get proficient enough to ski the advanced terrain at Whistler, I'll be too old to ski it.
post #20 of 29
Thread Starter 

you'd have a good time up on the blue stuff the 7TH HEAVEN CHAIR serves, too. wide, rolling, fun. up on blackcomb.
post #21 of 29
Yeah. There's some pretty decent intermediate stuff up there but even then, a low intermediate would mostly follow the cat track. Of course, you can go a full ski week and get completely shut out on 7th Heaven, Peak Chair, Glacier Chair, Harmony... The flat light up there is horrific. Maybe their motto should be:

Whistler/Blackcomb See it if you can
post #22 of 29
I'd take the Western skier to the airport so he could go back and find some real terrain to ski.
Unless you're really into bulletproof on relatively smaller and flatter hills I don't see the reason for the Westie to ski out here.
post #23 of 29
Actually, I skied a whole bunch of the Blues on Blackomb, even a few of them in a whiteout. I got so darn sick of skiing the cattracks, that I said, forget it, I don't care if I'm not ready for Blue terrain, anything is better than this! But since they were wider than the Blues at Jay, they weren't quite so scary.
post #24 of 29
Aye to Mad River Glen (just look at my user name [img]smile.gif[/img]), and to Cannon for classic New England trails. I personally also really enjoy the Castle Rock lift at Sugarbush as it's always felt to me like a little piece of Mad River on a more mainstream mountain.
post #25 of 29
I'd recommend Wildcat because the snow almost never softens up. When in Rome.......
post #26 of 29
Jay all the Way!!!
post #27 of 29
If only Jay was typical of NE skiing! I think all the aforementioned choices are good ones, but for a change I might highlight our skiing history and take our visitor from the west to a pasture in Sugar Hill, NH where America's first ski school began and to Tuck's to the site of the old inferno race and a lot of other ski history. For lift served skiing I think Cannon Mt is the closest to old-time NE skiing. In skiing there for over 30 years I've seen some lift and trail improvements but nothing that changes the spartan, rustic feel. As for the Philth (citezen of the world)escorting the visitor to the airport to escape eastern flat hills, nasty weather and icy snow...get over it! That bulletproof produces skiers like Bode Miller and Kristen Ulmer. Welcome to eastern skiing!
post #28 of 29
well im from pa so id have to point them toward 7 springs its not the highest terrain or the most difficult but oveall skiing and nightlife activities make up for all of it and its not as cold as alot of eastern resorts :
post #29 of 29
>>That bulletproof produces skiers like Bode Miller and Kristen Ulmer. <<

And many great skiers have come from the softer but steeper mountains of the world as well . . . truly great athletes are produced all over the world. We get out of *any* mountain what we put into it, so its generally silly to attach ones ego to your local topography!
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