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End of Season Horror!

post #1 of 36
Thread Starter 
Spent all day today catching up on filing of training materials for our instructors.

How in the hell do people spend 8x40x5 doing this kind of stuff? No amount of money is worth wasting life like that! God, skiing bumps hard all day is easier on the body (and definatly mind) than doing stuff like filing all day -- I hurt!

Ah well, thats what we get for putting it off all year! Nearly 400 instructors in conjunction with our training and in-house certification system means MEGA-PAPERWORK !!

Now its done, and we are done doing training for the season. So no more $ for skiing this season for me, but then again - no more responsibility while I'm skiing for the rest of the season.

Now . . . time to hit the hot tub for this back!
post #2 of 36
Welcome to my hell Todd. But wait, at least you have a hot tub!

Good thing about my job, I get to break stuff!
post #3 of 36
That's awful! I get to do just the fun training stuff and leave the paper work to management.

On the lower back stuff, isn't it amazing how detrimental the sedentary lifestyle is?
Been going to alot of lecture stuff for a certification upgrade. We sometimes have to beg the presenters to give us activity breaks.
Really hard to talk about sport and exercise when your back is killing you from sitting all day!
post #4 of 36
Thread Starter 
Yeah - I kept changing positions every 1/2 hour or so all day, sometimes sitting on the floor, sometimes on stool, sometimes on chair -- but just being doing something so monotonous, which requires that you be bent over at least a bit, for hours on end . . . awful. I'm much more tired than skiing all day makes me!
post #5 of 36
Okay. Translate that into the average person you see in your classes. Someone spends 40 hours a week hunched over a desk, it becomes understandable how they get up on the hill, and VOILA, Stevie Wonder position of the head, plus a whole lot of other dysfunctional things going on!

Its enough of a challenge for me to correct this stuff when they're in their gym clothes. But for you, layers of clothing, equipment, slippery surfaces, only see them for a limited time throughout the season..WHOAA!
I don't envy you guys!
post #6 of 36
Thanks Todd,

I have already decided to remain a lowly instructor in order to stay out on the mountian. You just put the icing on the cake by reminding me of how much I hated paper work.

PS It looks like Lou is the man for the job.
post #7 of 36
Thread Starter 
Yeah - paperwork sucks. Actually I generally ski hard 6-7 hours a day and only do a bit of paperwork each day (just fill out cards to document which instructors I skied with), so being a full time trainer is fine that way - today was an exception! But being the head of training on a mountain again? Or the head of the ski school again? Not!

Lou eh? Well, he is an obvious choice due to his senority -- hard to believe the powers that be are going for it though. And once in place, the poor guy may well get eaten alive!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 05, 2002 04:36 PM: Message edited 2 times, by Todd M. ]</font>
post #8 of 36
So I finally decide to sit down and actually study. Flipping open my text book, it ends up on a page about low back pain.

In 1997, a study was done about low back pain in low income countires. It was thought that lower income rural countries, that engaged in a good deal of physical labor, would have a higher incidence of back pain than urbanized counties such as the US, where office work predominated.


Results of the study showed that countries such as the US, where people work in in enclosed workspaces, have a higher incidence of back problems than low income rural countries.

Moral of the story? Better to be a low paid healthy ski instructor than a highly paid unhealthy manager.

But wait! Don't you go into computer geek mode soon? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Back to studying! :
post #9 of 36
LM and Todd

Sit at a desk is what I do for a living, I can attest to all that Todd has just discovered. I love what I do for living and it keeps my mind working all day, jsut not the body. So I rarely get bored. But I often come home feeling as Todd described.

Before I could excersize my early season shoulder injury,every day I would come home in pain, not a lot, just enough to be an annoyance. On the days that I got out and skied, everything felt much better.

Todd, be glad you only had to suffer for a single day!
post #10 of 36
Thread Starter 
Yeah - computer geek and writer mode for the off season, but I'm self employed and make sure I get out in the sunlight and Mt. Bike and such every day. Also when working on computers I'm driving around town, walking around between my work benches in my office and such. Writing is a lot of sitting, but its easy on the mind and that helps balance it out.
post #11 of 36
Yeah, but the worst is when someone has no choice, and do not start telling me
thet you always have a choice.
There are people who can not, not even by paying a gazillion dollars, have what you have, Todd & Lisa and many others.
So, be happy for the little price (because
a day's paperwork is little compare to 40
hrs on a desk, with the additional strain of knowing that there is nothing else for you).
Be glad!
post #12 of 36
Thread Starter 
Ok, I won't start telling you.
post #13 of 36
Study break... The trick is, if you have a 40 hour a week desk job, to try to get up and move as much as possible.

This lecturer, Juan Carlos Santana talks about early civilization being a hunting and gathering culture. he describes life as being "multi directional". Interestingly, from what can be gathered from historians, there did not seem to be a major problem with lower back or other orthopedic injuries.

But thats why skiing is the perfect, to coin a cliche, "antidote to civilization".
How much more multi directional can you possibly get?
post #14 of 36
Chris Stagg from Taos taught me the secret to paper work.

Throw it all away. It it's important it will come back.

My version of this is selective procrastination. I let my in-box pile up until most of it is obsolete!

If I get busted, I use the Steve Martin response: Well, Scuu-use me!

And remember, concerning procrastination--Mark Twain wrote, "Don't put off until tomorrow, what you can put off until the day after tomorrow."
post #15 of 36
How true Lisa!
When I was younger, and leading amore active life, perpetually moving, practicising sports (Judo, as an example, is very good to teach one how to fall and not injury oneself..) I never had back problems...
Then I broke L1 in a motorbike accident, the recovery involved 30 days lying in bed, my backbone muscles got soo weak that even now
(after 14 yrs) I can still "feel" the difference...
Anyway, the point is that during the day I try to move as much as possible, and not to sit in front of my computer all day, my colleagues think I'm half crazy, but then...
This september I went to see my family doc, because I felt some pain in the back, and he urged me to continue exercising (twice a week I was going to a ski gym session, once a week MTB) and most important addressed me to a physiatrist (sp?), after just one session (out of 4 which were planned)
my back problems went away, thanks to the
Doc AND to the advices he gave me (normal things like "sit right", simple things we all should remember, but that I had forgotten).
post #16 of 36
In addition to desks, the other bad thing about the corporate world, are ties....the only function of which, beyond the concept of being politically correct in adhereing to some sort of dress code/s is to....cut off the blood flow to your brain.

Take those guys at Enron and K mart.... no wonder one company is down the tubes and the other is on life support. Same thing with
Arthur Andersen, what were they thinking about letting people shred documentation and not reporting off the books investments that could effect a companies net worth and cash flow.

Why their ties were too tight !!!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 06, 2002 09:55 AM: Message edited 1 time, by wink ]</font>
post #17 of 36
Thread Starter 
Years ago the idea hit me that a necktie symbolizes a leash . . . the idea is like a virus and now has never left. When I have to I'll wear a nice sports jacket and matching attire, but never a leash/tie!
post #18 of 36
Wow, interesting about ties. Think of what it does to the circulation around your neck!

Day one of a sports med seminar with my "guru". Hope nobody minds more useless trivia.

Apparantly, Vietnamese rice pickers have a very low incidence of back pain. But even more interesting, even though they have a very minimal consumption of calcium, they have a low incidence of osteoporosis.

So maybe "Got Milk?" should be changed to "Got Lifestyle?"

Hey, that would make a great add for skiing!
Show someone with snow on their face, instead of the stupid milk mustache!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ April 06, 2002 06:40 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Lisamarie ]</font>
post #19 of 36
Interesting, Todd.
Maybe it's not the tie itself, rather the fact that you have to button up the shirt neck. That's what I find maddening...
I have taken the habit to but shirts with a neck size at least one size bigger than my neck, this way the strangled feeling is softened!
When I started working in an office (well it wasn't really an office job, still we were reuired to wear a shirt and tie) I felt the same way as you feel, strangled...
But I got used to it...thanks to the little aforementioned trick...
Now, I have a more casual attritude toward dress code (that's what age makes to one, eh?) and wear all sort of shirts/ties/even turtlenecks at work..
post #20 of 36
There is a western tradition where we congenially walk up to the tie wearer with a scissors and cut the tie in half.

When I worked at Steamboat, the ski school director used to do that to the owners regularly. It was a liberating moment for them.
post #21 of 36
Weems, that's what happening at weddings here!
After the tie has been cut into pieces, it is then sold to the attendees.
A way to raise money for the newlywed honeymoon...
post #22 of 36
What a great idea. We should start that here. Although most ties at weddings are rented.(oops)
I wore a tie when I was service manager in a Fiat dealership(the only time). I made more money but had less fun than any other time in my working life.
post #23 of 36
Fun's the key Slatz, really it is!
Otherwise the days would be unbearable!
post #24 of 36
I agree about the ties, Todd. I made the same decision in 1969, when I began to let my whiskers grow (trimmed regularly, but unshaven since). I wore turtlenecks and sports coats or suits to "special events" until the funeral for my best friend's father five or six years ago. Broke out the tie again for my dad's funeral a couple years later.
post #25 of 36
Ties have been centre stage in the UK this past week, with certain newspapers orchestrating complaints that BBC announcers failed to wear sufficiently black ties when announcing stuff to do with the Queen Mother's death, funeral, &c, &c.

No, I have not made this up. It is entirely true and makes me deeply embarrassed to have a British passport.

post #26 of 36
Really, Scotski?

Sounds interesting. May I ask for a clarification on the tie issue? Was the problem that the ties weren't sufficiently dull or sufficiently dark (is it an issue of color or glossiness)? This would be an observation made by a real old timer or no? It might be linked to funereal traditions that go back more than half a century, though I suppose few people pulled their blinds down or wore arm bands and such, right?

post #27 of 36
You guys are exceedingly weak! Don't you know how tough you have to be to survive the rigours of being a weekend warrior?

As pampered full-time skiers you have no idea of how resilient and resourceful the teeming masses of those who don suit and tie to toil at the coal-face on behalf of multi-nationals every week have to be, before raging hard at the mountain every weekend.

We are also obviously much more able to cope with change and multi-tasking. Physically we seem to be better suited to diverse activity, and psychologically more tolerant and focussed.

Sadly the evolutionary process seems to be swinging the way of the desk jockey.

post #28 of 36
The BBC newsreader kept on the burgundy tie he had been wearing before. The 'outrage' at it not being a black tie was manufactured by the press looking for something new to say other than '101-year old lady dies peacefully in her sleep'

From my office window I can see the line of people waiting to see the coffin (over a mile away). Apparantly the wait is 11 hours. Why aren't they out skiing?

p.s. I once spent 2 weeks doing nothing but filing end-of-term reports at a local college in order to earn money. They'd saved up this huge pile until the regular secretary went on holiday so they could get some young innocent temp to do it. By the end my brain was beginning to drip out of my ears.
post #29 of 36
RockSkier, I humbly bow to your prowess and kneel in awe of your versatility. You are correct. We mountain wimps have no place in the evolutionary chain, and are doomed to depart from the line of homo sapiens to develop our own lost species. How about the fun hog!?? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #30 of 36
Yes, I see a time in the near future when fleshy protuberances appear around the neck of newborns that stretch to the navel. The spine will naturally hunch, wrist muscles will be the size of the current bicep, fingers will be able to move faster than the eye can follow. Eyes will have a natural additional layer of correctional material that can adapt to failing eye-sight. Our skin will have adapted to be able to derive all essential vitamins and minerals from artificial lighting, and our lungs will be at their most efficient in air-conditioned buildings.

There will be a Filing World Cup, the most prestigious sporting event, and coffee-making will be a demonstration event at the 2208 Olympics.

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