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Poll Results: Which skier silhouette do you prefer?

 
  • 55% (44)
    I prefer the skier silhouette in image A
  • 42% (34)
    I prefer the skier silhouette in image B
  • 2% (2)
    I don't care.
80 Total Votes  
post #31 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
If you moved the bear logo, then you could have skier A spraying skier B...
Now you're talking!:
post #32 of 57
...and just to show that we are an open church, could we have a snowboarder sitting down in the middle between them?
post #33 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonni
Ott has a good point. Original 'A' seems to be about racing gates.

I like the original 'B' better.......you can see skis and doesn't give the 'racing' image, which isn't really what ESA is all about.
Why does a high-angle carve signify racing? I just don't get why everyone jumps to this conclusion. It is efficient, powerful, and graceful, IMNSHO. Image A meshes more with what epic means for me and with what I would hope to get out of an ESA.
post #34 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost
Figure A is charging the mountain; figure B is skiing a bit defencively, back on his heels, perhaps negotiating a bit of tricky terrain. I chose A because I like that attitude more.
well if you'd prefer to see Tyrone skiing less defensively there's this image
post #35 of 57
Silhouette B looks somewhat defensive because of the odd angle the picture was taken at. However, Tyrone's skiing in the original image is decidedly NOT defensive:

post #36 of 57
Thread Starter 
My theory is that you could shoot film (24 frames a second) of *any skier of your choosing, skiing at their very best* and then pick out frames that in isolation, appear to show a bad habit or a defensive tactic, when the full motion picture clearly contradicts that. That's my instinct as a photographer, not as anyone that knows anything at all about Movement Analysis.
post #37 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Silhouette B looks somewhat defensive because of the odd angle the picture was taken at. However, Tyrone's skiing in the original image is decidedly NOT defensive:

Very good point. In silhouette form it looks like retro elegance on a probably intermediate slope. Far from what is actually happening. Funny what happens when the slope and line is eliminated.
post #38 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
My theory is that you could shoot film (24 frames a second) of *any skier of your choosing, skiing at their very best* and then pick out frames that in isolation, appear to show a bad habit or a defensive tactic, when the full motion picture clearly contradicts that. That's my instinct as a photographer, not as anyone that knows anything at all about Movement Analysis.
That makes me feel better
post #39 of 57
If Bob Barnes is the skier in image A, I definitely prefer it, facing any way you want.
post #40 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
If you moved the bear logo, then you could have skier A spraying skier B...
Is that how Barking Bears mark their territory? I thought that was just cats?
post #41 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_m
If Bob Barnes is the skier in image A, I definitely prefer it, facing any way you want.
For a full history of where these images came from, why they were chosen, how they were altered, and why other images didn't "make the cut", you'll just have to plow through:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=41985
post #42 of 57


...very defensive...
post #43 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Why does a high-angle carve signify racing? I just don't get why everyone jumps to this conclusion. It is efficient, powerful, and graceful, IMNSHO. Image A meshes more with what epic means for me and with what I would hope to get out of an ESA.
ESA means all mountain skiing to me.Not just carving up the groomers. I do enjoy carving up the groomers though.Its all good.
post #44 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
If you moved the bear logo, then you could have skier A spraying skier B...
I think the logo should have the bear chasing both of the skiers

post #45 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
I think the logo should have the bear chasing both of the skiers

then they'd both look fast:
post #46 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier


...very defensive...
Time for a bit of MA...
He appears to have unweighted both tips, and released both skis. He is NOT carving cleanly.
Therefore he is a bad skier.
post #47 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
Time for a bit of MA...
He appears to have unweighted both tips, and released both skis. He is NOT carving cleanly.
Therefore he is a bad skier.
Hey I at least started off with a carve!


post #48 of 57
Touchy, touchy! I was speaking of the silouhette's impression, not Tyrone's skiing. It's the pitch that requires the cm to be back behind the feet so the gravity vector goes through the feet and not past the tips. It's very difficult for your silouhette to imply aggressiveness on a steep pitch without doing front rolls. Maybe Tyrone has a shot of himself on a less steep pitch.
post #49 of 57


Here's the best image, credit going to Kidwoo from TGR (sorry for the plaigiarism, but this is too good for just one website).
post #50 of 57
It's just an unweighted release with a long transition...
post #51 of 57
Quote:
I think the logo should have the bear chasing both of the skiers
A while back a story was making the rounds of a local skier at Whitefish who actually had claw marks on his skis to prove that he outran an angry grizzly mama bear when apres-season spring ski-skinning in the Big Mtn. area.
post #52 of 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolo
A while back a story was making the rounds of a local skier at Whitefish who actually had claw marks on his skis to prove that he outran an angry grizzly mama bear when apres-season spring ski-skinning in the Big Mtn. area.

There was an article a while back in one of the ski magazines about such an incident. I believe it was said to have occurred in Montana. It may be the same story. Whatever the truth of the matter may be, it made for interesting reading. As fast as bears can be, they are at something of a disadvantage running downhill -I hope.
post #53 of 57
I think the skier in A looks more masculine, and the skier in B looks mor feminine. But thats just my eye.
post #54 of 57
I voted for silhouette A. Also, like the NBA logo has a silhouette of Jerry West, I believe this is a silhouette of Mike Rogan. Do I win anything?
post #55 of 57
I thought it was the one of Nick Herrin that was nominated early in the process...

I hear it's someone else. I guess good skiers ski alike.

I think it would be cool for our logo to have more than one "Jerry West" to emphasize that good skiing is good skiing and is not unique to the person.
post #56 of 57
Tyrone's huck is a classic, and well executed example of terrain unweighting (but he looks scared and defensive )

I like the skier A image as a sihlouette. It looks more athletic, graceful, powerful, and technical. Granted, you won't be able to please everyone with one image, because they appeal to different groups of skiers. Skier A seems more "epic ski", and skier B seems more "TGR". Since this is an Epic Ski logo, I vote for skier A.
post #57 of 57
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolo
I thought it was the one of Nick Herrin that was nominated early in the process...

I hear it's someone else. I guess good skiers ski alike.

I think it would be cool for our logo to have more than one "Jerry West" to emphasize that good skiing is good skiing and is not unique to the person.
Both images will be used, situationally. The image of Bob Barnes has now become the silhouette on the ESA Seal, and it can be seen at http://esa.epicski.com.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
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