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post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
I have a chance for free lodging for a week in a nice timeshare with friends who we really enjoy traveling with.

It is located in Eden UT so I would be skiing Powder Mtn.

Is Pow Mow a good hill for a strong intermediate?
How far is Eden from Snowbasin (driving time)
How far is Eden from Park City ?

any hints on POW MOW would be appreciated...

this would be in late March 2007

They need an answer soon as things with TIme shares are filling up fast as it is our spring break

thanks

Mike:
post #2 of 27
Is Pow Mow a good hill for a strong intermediate?
Excellent

How far is Eden from Snowbasin (driving time)
25-30 minutes

How far is Eden from Park City ?
I'd guess about 1 hour 15 minutes.

this would be in late March 2007
There's a chance the snow surface could be "spring-like" in late March (if you find that to be a problem)
post #3 of 27
Skip Powder Mountain and proceed directly to Snowbasin. Snowbasin is Utah's secret - which is surprising since it has the best lift access, shortest - non-existant lift lines, and some of the best terrain in Utah. Seriously.
There are fresh turns to be had days after a storm and its a ghost town up there during the week.
Powder Mountain is an OK hill, but why ski there when you can ski Snowbasin - especially since its so close to where you're going to be anyway?
Snowbasin has terrain for any skill level, but while you're there you can sample some of Utah's best. You don't need to venture anywhere else, trust me.
post #4 of 27
Thread Starter 
I have skied Snobasin and really enjoyed it....

Figured I should try Powder if we were staying in Eden....

my main concern is the lateness of our spring break....

is there still good snow in late march at Snowbasin and or Powder Mt

thanks for answering my slightly redundant questions

this board is an invaluable resource

Mike
post #5 of 27
March at Snowbasin should be ok, but the lower section of the resort, around the lodges, should be getting soft. The John Paul section is north facing so you won't have to deal with slush until the bottom.

Ski the mens downhill and you will quickly improve.

I too would stay at Snowbasin, it is much better than Pow.

The conditions really depend on the temps. Either way you have a short drive to Snowbird/Alta to get the goods if you want a change.
post #6 of 27
Although I too love Snowbasin, I also like Powder Mountain. It's definately worth a single day there. Hint: try the very accessible BC for a real experience. Strong intermediates can access a lot of this terrain, as Powder Mountain isn't known for its steeps.

Powdr
post #7 of 27
One other tip, if you get a warmer day, Powder Mt. has a base elevation of 8000 and Snowbasin about 6500. I stayed there in march once and we had snow all day at Pow. Mt. and I heard they had rain halfway up hill at Snowbasin. In other words, if you get precip w/high snow level, go to PM.
post #8 of 27
I think we had more snow in March this year than any other month. Here are 2 shots from March:


Check out the crowds on the chair - this is at about 11:00 am on a Thursday in the middle of March.



This is late March and first chair on Noname - note the lack of tracks out there. These are week days and March is great for Snow and Sunshine. Powder Mt. is supposed to replace the old Hidden Lake chair with a new H.S. Quad this summer and that would really help the amount of verticle per day issue there>
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by Maui Steve
One other tip, if you get a warmer day, Powder Mt. has a base elevation of 8000 and Snowbasin about 6500. I stayed there in march once and we had snow all day at Pow. Mt. and I heard they had rain halfway up hill at Snowbasin. In other words, if you get precip w/high snow level, go to PM.
Actually, neither area has a high base area (the bottom of the Paradise for Powder Mountain), both of which are in the mid 6,000' range. Both suffer from marginal snow during warmer storms. Alta/Bird/Solitude/Brighton are far better bets when we get those occaisonal southern systems, as they have bases in the 8,000' range.

Powdr
post #10 of 27
I forgot that altho the base area is at 8000, a fair amt of the skiing is below the base. Interesting setup. I haven't skiied it in years, but plan to this year in part due to new chairlift. Now we just need winter.
post #11 of 27
Elevation range is 6,400 - 9,500 at Snowbasin, 6,900 - 8,900 at Powder Mt. You will thus see a swift transition to spring condition in late March when it's sunny, especially since Snowbasin's primary exposure is east and Powder Mt. has a wide range of exposures. The superiority of Cottonwood Canyon conditions vs. other Utah areas increases as you go later in the season starting in March.

If you are an advanced intermediate looking to improve your powder skiing, Snowbasin and Powder Mt. are among the best places anywhere to do that without the intense competition you would find most places. But you need to be lucky and get the storms while you're there.
post #12 of 27
Go for it, been to both and love 'em! And, what Mr. Crocker says is Gold.
post #13 of 27
Thread Starter 
ok .... it is booked.... I figure free lodging for a week can't be all bad...

hoping that March is a great snow month 2007

I will ski 5 of the 6 days we will be there ---

When I skiied snowbasin in Feb this year(2006) I loved it ....it was 2 days after a small storm and there was powder to be found that was still untracked --- that did not happen my powder day at the Canyons...

thanks for all the input..... as it gets closer I will ask some about places to eat in the Ogden - Eden Area

mike
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by mikebike
thanks for all the input..... as it gets closer I will ask some about places to eat in the Ogden - Eden Area

mike
Not much from what I remember. We pretty much just cooked our own food at the house we rented.
post #15 of 27
You already know Snowbasin and I think you'll like Powder Mountain a lot also and I think you should take a day and go to one of the cottonwood canyons.

Even if you don't it should be a great time.
post #16 of 27
Splurge at Snowbasin lodges, all GREAT!!!
post #17 of 27
If the snow is sloppy the Cottonwood Canyon resorts are only a 1+ hour drive, so you do have a viable backup if the weather doesn't cooperate.
post #18 of 27
Mike, PowMow is a great hill for a strong intermediate skier. It's more of a "locals" mountain, not fancy, glitzy or sophisticated ... just purely about the snow. The tree skiing there is fairly open and overall the place is lot's of fun. We usually get bored there after about 2-days, but overall PowMow is a great spot.

Snowbasin is a world class place, with world class skiing. The staff is very helpful and courteous ... love those lifts. Our first time there we were looking over the trail map at the bottom, and a member of the Ski Patrol came up and asked what type skiing we were looking for. He pointed out a couple of slopes, "stick mostly to this lift ... may want to avoid this one", etc ... just very, very helpful. The men's downhill was there with the 2002 Olympics and a lot of money was poured into the lodges and resort overall. "Luxurious" is how I'd describe Snowbasin's lodges and facilities, and again the slopes are long, well groomed with plenty of off-piste areas for backcountry type skiing.

Bottom line here is you will not go wrong with either place, but you'll definately want to mix it up between both.
post #19 of 27
Late March at Powder Mtn, that's chancey!!!. Last year last weekend of February it was unbelievable how the southern exposure and low elevation of that mtn has turned much of the mtn to mush already. The day we skied marginal conditions at PowM. , our pals were enjoying another bluebird day in the cottonwoods. Snowbasin should be somewhat better because the mtn has a more northern exposure. Alta/Snowbird are perfect in that most of the slopes point directly north and the sun doesn't pound the snow. Makes a HUGE difference. Also the lifts are so slow and the mtn layout so funky at Powder Mtn that I wouldn't want to ski it everyday. However, if it is snowing out and you are a Powder skier, that is the place to be for clean lines after a storm.
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
Snowbasin should be somewhat better because the mtn has a more northern exposure.
FWIW, the basin has very little northern exposure.
post #21 of 27
>Snowbasin should be somewhat better because the mtn has a more northern exposure.
Did you notice I said "more northern", I should have said WAY MORE NORTHERN

ZZZ - I thought you lived out that way. Go to www.snowbasin.com/summer/trail_maps.html
there have a nice handy compass right on the maps. John Paul faces directly NORTH, that is why the snow holds up so sweet on that side. Most of the mountain faces NorthEast, isn't that close enough???, Sure Strawberry get "baked"(faces SE), but most of the other mtn holds up pretty nice, it is the lower elevation that makes the snow not comparable to the Cottonwoods, not the fact that much of it is pointed about 75degrees NorthEast. We're splitting hairs.

Warning: Last year I skied PowMow Feb 25th and much of it was slop or crud because of the sun and because of it's exposure. Do with that info what you wish!

Sheesh: If you can't accept the fact that Snowbasin has a better "more northern exposure" than PowMow without arguing, no wonder I have problems when I make "unbiased" skiing comparisons btn Park City resorts and the Cottonwoods.
post #22 of 27
no after further review, ignore some of my above post, much of Powder Mtn does face north, some of it more north than Snowbasin, but it is a fairly flat hill with a funny layout that makes it catch the sun, and probably this is most important, it is around 1000ft lower on average than Snowbasin..

And Powder Country, now that is South/Slop with a hot sun, even in February.
post #23 of 27
Both hills are awesome. If you get some fresh snow, hit Snowbasin first. The powder will still be waiting for you at powder mountain days later. We skiied it on a blazing blue day, after a dump. the place was deserted. We did the snowcat thing, and took an experienced instructor from the ski school with us. He showed us the good stuff, and we were awed. If you get someone to show you around, you'll find stuff you'd never find on your own.
Snowbasin, since the development, is more built, more lifts, more stuff. It does get windy and misty though.

Oh, and while you're there, you HAVE to visit the Eden Coffee Roasting Company! Great coffee. Can't miss it.
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
>ZZZ - I thought you lived out that way.
I've skied there a couple of days.
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
Go to www.snowbasin.com/summer/trail_maps.html
there have a nice handy compass right on the maps. John Paul faces directly NORTH, that is why the snow holds up so sweet on that side. Most of the mountain faces NorthEast, isn't that close enough???

Maps ... Maps? ... here's the map - http://www.skiutah.com/maps/
post #26 of 27
The artist conception maps are OK, but the best way to investigate topography/exposures for areas you haven't skied is Google Earth.

Esecially if you have Marc Guido's skimap.kml file (see http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boa...pic.php?t=2071 ) which has marked most North American ski areas.
post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by Dorm57 View Post
Maps ... Maps? ... here's the map - http://www.skiutah.com/maps/
Whoa, that thing is so accurate, oh wait.... I can see my house, it faces north!
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