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Same skis for 8 yrs and need some help

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
I have had these Nordica's in a 170 for a long time. I didnt know anything about skiing besides that it was easy for me and this is the set up the shop sold me 8 years ago. I still enjoy the skis today execpt for when I try to get into some high speeds, or when im in deep powder (they didnt fair to well when I went to Park City UT this past winter). Does anyone know anything about these skis, ex: if there considered stiff or soft, that kinda stuff. And also any advice on new skis that would be a extreme step up for the Nordica's would be a great help.
-Thanks

Height: 5'10
Weight: 185
Level: 8-9
Ski gear Knowledge level: -1 1/2
post #2 of 25
Looks like a Nordica Next. Was there a number on it or do you have width dimensions?
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
I think it had a 70mm waist but thats all I know
post #4 of 25
nordica next from 1999/2000 was 102-64-88 (not sure on the 88). The next had a 7.0 and a 9.0 from that year and the next year, neither was over 70mm waist.
post #5 of 25
You live in Philly. How much of your skiing is done out west and how much back east?
post #6 of 25
Firegold, I think the bids (none) on that ski should tell you something. First of all, please read the Ski Gear FAQ at this link or the top of the forum. Post back the information needed in terms of your size, skiing ability, level, objectives, etc. We'll find a productive way for you to spend your money.
post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by Yuki
You live in Philly. How much of your skiing is done out west and how much back east?
This past winter was my first time out west, but east coast wise I get up to VT atleast 4-5 times a year for about a week each time. I guess I would consider my home mt. camel back even though its about a 2 hr trip, in-season I make it up there once a week. So I do ski a lot and have even helped with doing some instructing with a friend at Jack Frost, I just dont know much about gear. Lately I have been getting into twin tips ski and learning quickly but I wanted something to replace my crap nordica's and want to learn more about other types of skis.
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
Firegold, I think the bids (none) on that ski should tell you something. First of all, please read the Ski Gear FAQ at this link or the top of the forum. Post back the information needed in terms of your size, skiing ability, level, objectives, etc. We'll find a productive way for you to spend your money.
In my first post I posted my size: 5'10, weight: 185, I dont know what you mean by ability, level: 7-9, objectives: I want a ski that can go on and off piste (basically everwhere), something I can get into some extemely high speeds, and have a smaller turn radius. I wouldnt mind getting recomendations for a east coast and west coast ski that meets what I want. B/c this upcomming season I will be out west a min of 4 times this year. So I guess some examples for what im looking for in a east coast ski: elan S12 in 168 and west coast ski: Nordica Hotrod in 178 or Volkl AC3 177. Any thoughts? Hope I narrowed things down a bit.
-thanks
post #9 of 25
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post #10 of 25
If you are just going to be out west and ski four times maybe you should demo and not worry about it.
The west is a big place so it depends on what you need there. A powder sk? An all around ski like an AC-4?
Back East you would probably like a carving ski.
Are you going to hop in the bumps on this or scream at mach and carve like a ginsu?
post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarryZ
If you are just going to be out west and ski four times maybe you should demo and not worry about it.
The west is a big place so it depends on what you need there. A powder sk? An all around ski like an AC-4?
Back East you would probably like a carving ski.
Are you going to hop in the bumps on this or scream at mach and carve like a ginsu?
Cool, well I def will demo while out there, any suggestions on a ski that will handel well at high speeds and backcountry?
and for the East coast question def. scream at mach and carve like a ginsu.....the faster the better is how I like to ski. Im 22 so I love to push myself to the limit.
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by Firegold
In my first post I posted my size: 5'10, weight: 185, I dont know what you mean by ability, level: 7-9, objectives: I want a ski that can go on and off piste (basically everwhere), something I can get into some extemely high speeds, and have a smaller turn radius. I wouldnt mind getting recomendations for a east coast and west coast ski that meets what I want. B/c this upcomming season I will be out west a min of 4 times this year. So I guess some examples for what im looking for in a east coast ski: elan S12 in 168 and west coast ski: Nordica Hotrod in 178 or Volkl AC3 177. Any thoughts? Hope I narrowed things down a bit.
-thanks
AC3 would be comparable to the Nordica Hot Rod Modified and the AC4 -the Hot Rod Top fuel.
post #13 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Robscapes
AC3 would be comparable to the Nordica Hot Rod Modified and the AC4 -the Hot Rod Top fuel.
What do you consider to be a better ski for what i am looking for??
post #14 of 25
Firegold is am very biased but this it the TRUTH I am sharing with you,
One of the finest ripping skis under 80 mm under the foot is the Volkl Allstar

You try this ski and you will have the biggest grin on your face that you have had in a long time skiing.
It holds on hard surfaces like an ice skate. You will be the king of the hard surfaces. And when some blessed new snow falls you will still be on top of your game.
Do a search on this ski and listen to the owners of this ski. I am so not kidding here.
post #15 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarryZ
Firegold is am very biased but this it the TRUTH I am sharing with you,
One of the finest ripping skis under 80 mm under the foot is the Volkl Allstar

You try this ski and you will have the biggest grin on your face that you have had in a long time skiing.
It holds on hard surfaces like an ice skate. You will be the king of the hard surfaces. And when some blessed new snow falls you will still be on top of your game.
Do a search on this ski and listen to the owners of this ski. I am so not kidding here.
GarryZ thxs for the info. Some ppl told me before about the Allstar, but it was never explained that way. Being a hockey player its nice to hear a ski that would grip like that. The only question I have is how does it hold up at the mach speeds I like to rip at?
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by Firegold
GarryZ thxs for the info. Some ppl told me before about the Allstar, but it was never explained that way. Being a hockey player its nice to hear a ski that would grip like that. The only question I have is how does it hold up at the mach speeds I like to rip at?
The Allstar is great.. A friend of mine has a pair, and I had a go with them at hypermach speeds, on ice.. Great edge grip, and pretty stable on high speeds, just a little bit nervous 'floppy' tip, this can be solved (according to Volkl rep) by using the IPT extension ($20 dollar option)..
post #17 of 25
First, the Allstar is one of the strongest skis you could consider for eastern conditions and basically no speed limit. It is not by any means a powder ski; although if you have strong technique it will take you there. The ipt piston is not an option on a US distributed ski; but is often an option if you buy from a Canaadian outlet on Ebay. Allstar has been reviewed extensively and compared to other skis in the following links:


Allstar Reveiw by Hrstrat57
Allstar vs RX8
Allstar vs Ripstix
All Mountian Carving Multiple Ski Reveiw
AC3, Allstar, Recon, B2

That should get you started, and probably worth pointing out there is a pair of Allstars in the Ski Swap.
post #18 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Firegold
GarryZ thxs for the info. Some ppl told me before about the Allstar, but it was never explained that way. Being a hockey player its nice to hear a ski that would grip like that. The only question I have is how does it hold up at the mach speeds I like to rip at?
The only reservation I have about them is you need to massage your turns on run outs. .Just make big arc turns as most shaped skis are happier when on edge. So I just lean slightly and rock back instead of a tuck and straightline. Very stable.A sports car version of a gs ski
They do hold like ice skates . I like to play with gravity on steeps and the confidence these give you on ice is awesome. You can cut anywhere float and let them come back under you and their hold is great

Many are set up like mine with the IPT racing w/pcos. It is worthy
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
Whats the difference between Motion iPT w/PCOS and iPT racing w/PCOS and also if I were to get the allstar's what size should I get them in?
post #20 of 25
If you want to go all over the mountain, including Vermont, go with the AC3 or 4. The All Star is a nice ski..if you are going to have a quiver (more than one pair). On the hard snow the AC3 will be almost as much fun as the All Star, but in softer deep snow, the AC3 will be MUCH more fun that the All Star.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by Firegold
Whats the difference between Motion iPT w/PCOS and iPT racing w/PCOS and also if I were to get the allstar's what size should I get them in?
The din is slightly higher on the racing but not much differance at all. You could handle the 175 at your size . If you had misgivings go to the next smaller size . Which would be the 168. I think the 175 would suit you fine. I ski the 175 but I think I could have been happy with the 182.
I also weigh more than you.
post #22 of 25
Völkl International
This is Volkls website. You can check all their skis. the AC-4 is a nice ski too . But I think the Allstar would suit you fine and I have skied it in powder and it worked fine.
People think you need a big fat ski for powder. Mostly you need an agressive attitude with some speed and you can ski it in skinny skis far narrower than the Allstars.
post #23 of 25
Hmm, Phil, d'ya get to try Fischer AMC in VT?
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by Firegold
Whats the difference between Motion iPT w/PCOS and iPT racing w/PCOS and also if I were to get the allstar's what size should I get them in?
Read the reviews I posted earlier. There is a big following for the Allstar in a 168. You are not the biggest or heaviest skier. I agree either 168 or 175 will work. Bumps and tighter turns, I would lean to the shorter.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by comprex
Hmm, Phil, d'ya get to try Fischer AMC in VT?
No, I didn't. haven't been on a Fischer in a coons age...how ever long that is, but it has been a while.
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