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The best all mountain ski's w/twin tips!

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I'm heading up to whistler for the coming season so I'm looking for a pair of ski's that will be good all round.

I'll be working on the hill so I need something thats gonna be ok day to day on the grooms.

I love the powder and occasionally venture into the park (need twin tips).

I've been thinking about the Volkl -Karma's or Salomon - Teneighty Foil's.

I was hoping someone could give me some advice on the better of the two, or suggest anything else that would suitable?

please help...!!!!
Thanks Dan.

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post #2 of 26
I've skied the Karma and it is a great all mountain ski. I skied the 177 and found it perfect for me (I'm 6'0 160). It was really a good all around ski. I skied it in bumps, trees, freshies, and the groomed, but no park. However, I didn't have any problem landing relatively small hucks with them. They were extremely stable at speed...I never really found their speed limit.

My buddy skied the Foil and didn't really care for it. It's super lightweight and tends to get thrown around a lot in the crud and chopped up stuff. But if you're into the park than lightweight may be you're thing.

If you love the powder and do tend to venture off-piste, why don't you go a little fatter. I have the Volkl Gotama and it absolutely rules everything. The width of it takes a couple of runs to get used to, but once you do it is very comfortable to ski. The Gotama is an extremely versatile ski and it really shines in the pow.
post #3 of 26
I skiied the foils (174) last year for about 10-12 runs. Anytime I was in crud, the skis got deflected. In powder, they held up, but sank a little. On groomers, they could be set on edge, but chattered and never really hooked up. On jumps they were unbelievable due to their light construction. I've found some foil's pretty cheap, and they are a good deal if you want one ski that won't do anything really well but can get by on everything. They'll leave you wanting more in almost any situation -- Don't know about the karma's, haven't skiied 'em.
post #4 of 26
I have the Salomon Guns and I like'em. They can ski any terrain.
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

The best all mountain ski's w/twin tips!

Thanks for your advice guys,

By the sounds of things the foils arn't gonna do the job for me. Still thinking about the Karma's, not sure what length to get though. I'm 6'3 about 170.

Thanks Ticos, I'll def check out the Gotama.

Anyone know of any other brands that might do the trick?

Thanks
Dan......

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post #6 of 26
I'm amazed no one has recommended the K2 Public Enemy as it's one of the most popular all mountain twin tips on market. My son's on his 3rd pair and the PE handles anything he can throw it's way.
post #7 of 26
A one-ski quiver that's okay day to day on groomers? At you weight/height, Head mojo 90 in a 186. I hear the 07' version is going to be a little stiffer so depending on your skill, it might suit your weight even better. Mount it at the line if you plan on doing mostly piste/park. Mount it 1-2 cm back if you plan on doing more pow/off-piste.
post #8 of 26
You may want to take a look at the Dynastar Big Trouble or another option is the Fischer Kehua or Atua.
post #9 of 26
Check out 4FRNT skis.

If having a true twin isn't a necessity, than look at some skis that have turned up tails and not full twins.
post #10 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdant
Still thinking about the Karma's, not sure what length to get though. I'm 6'3 about 170.
185
post #11 of 26
i ski on the foils and i can handle them in any terrain from soft montana snow to sierra cement....and i still feel they are the best ski ive had in a long time.....but for you i would go for the Poket Rocket wich is a great ski
post #12 of 26
My $0.02:

Volkl Karmas or Head Mojo90.

Both great Whistler skis.
post #13 of 26
I'll second the Head Mojo 90. A friend of mine skied them everyday at Loveland.
post #14 of 26
I don't see the Atomic Snoop daddy on the list.
There was a review on it, worth looking up.
The only draw back is that its new for 2007, so getting a demo, and/or finding a deal may not be easy.
post #15 of 26
Highly recomend the Big troubles...I've skied both the karmas and Big troubles, both rock, but i think the BTs are better.
post #16 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekchick
I don't see the Atomic Snoop daddy on the list.
There was a review on it, worth looking up.
The only draw back is that its new for 2007, so getting a demo, and/or finding a deal may not be easy.
This is the review that got me thinking about getting a pair of these or the Karma's still pondering the question......Snoop Daddy's or Karma's.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ighlight=Snoop
post #17 of 26
If by "all mountain" you actually mean the entire mountain (powder, parks, groomed, etc.), I would recommend Rossignol Scratch FS.
post #18 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
This is the review that got me thinking about getting a pair of these or the Karma's still pondering the question......Snoop Daddy's or Karma's.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ighlight=Snoop
Snoop Daddy isn't a true twin tip. Karma is.
post #19 of 26
Scratch FS or BC is the way to go.
post #20 of 26
Or Biiiiiig Trouble.

SJ
post #21 of 26
I don't think anybody has mentioned the Line Prophet 90's. Great all mountain ski, and A little fatter than the Karma's for skiing the pow.
post #22 of 26
If you're gonna be in Whistler, why not take Prior up on a demo of their Original or Doughboys?

http://priorskis.com/

They're local Whistler cats.


As for the Karma, I have a pair (177's), but haven't skied 'em in powder. I have skied them on ice (okay), groomers (rip), and crustified dibs (powder on packed powder) where they totally ripped.

Sierra Jim has mentioned the Armada ARV series in other posts (I have a pair of the AR5's, but found them to be way too soft for my taste...haven't had any experience with the ARV, though).
post #23 of 26
Hi I have had the salomon suspect 161 and absolutely love them. They are a really good all mountain ski yet preform superbly when it comes down to the park. I would truly recommend these skis to anyone who wants an awesome park and all mountain ski.
post #24 of 26

Last post to this thread was 2006, Ross. Look top left in the grey/gray bar above each post. :)

post #25 of 26

OK, my son is interested in the answer to the same question. Now. Hauls ass all around the mountain, usually on groomed or rarer pow, and wants TT for backwards skiing.  5' 9" 160 lbs. 21 yrs old. 

post #26 of 26

Soul Rider, Bridge, Head Oblivion, Rossi Slat among others.

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