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post #31 of 109
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Originally Posted by Jamesj
At Snowbird, Utah I skied some terrain underneath the tram to the edge of a precipice, the drop-off beyond went on for 1,000 feet and from my mid-Atlantic perspective looked to be in the extreme category of “if you fall, you die”. The area was part of what they call Great Scott...
Is this the area you're talking about?
post #32 of 109
Like so many other on this thread Corbet's is the one that sticks out for me. When I was there 15 years ago, I stood on the lip for 10 minutes and then chickened out. The jump in combined with an iffy landing was just too much for me and the rocks on either side seemed to get closer the longer I waited. Never been back since to make up for it unfortunately but I seem to recall it was blasted out a bit to reduce the jump a few years ago?.

Made up for it a few years later in Valdez when our guide roped the rest of our group down a 30 foot (okay probably 20!!) drop then turned to me and motioned to go for it. Well, with my mates waiting below it was kind of hard to wimp out so had to squeeze the butt cheeks hard and jump in. Qualifies as one of my all time best ski experiences as I managed to nail the landing and kept going for another 1500 feet vertical in 15+ inches of new snow. Man was I pumped when I stopped!!!.

I must admit that I am still a bit reluctant to go for something if it involves much of a jump in, start to worry about the old bones. Less worried when I can get in without jumping although nailing the first turn always gets the adrenalin going.
post #33 of 109
I didnt ski one area at Jay Peak... although im not too sad that i didnt. It was some place between the face chutes and green beret... about half way between them. There wasnt a lot of snow and it seemed at the time at least, fairly unskiable. I was looking at it from the top where you hike up that rock area after you get off the tram... and it had looked much easier from below... Oh well.

As for finding other very difficult terrain: I'm going to Vail, Breckenridge, Keystone, and Arapahoe Basin for spring break. What is the most difficult terrain at each area. I have only ever skied Vail (twice) and the most difficult terrain i found at the time was probably the first part of Lover's Leap over in Blue Sky Basin. Where would everyone that knows those mountains well suggest i go to find scary steep stuff?

Later

GREG
post #34 of 109
Lots of them now that I am an old man. Corbet's back in the mid seventies. And it was a good snow year! LewBob
post #35 of 109
these are some very sweet stories.

at The Big Mountain, I've said "no" to the Picture Chutes as well as the top chute of Big Horn... and on one particular day, SHOULD HAVE said "no" to Elephant's Graveyard.

many runs as a younger skier. said "no" to Goat at Stowe, but did ski Star.

Weems's group (of which I was part) skied one of the puckerish Snowbird chutes at last year's ESA, and it was Great Scott if I'm not mistaken. of course we had lots o' cotton to fall into.
post #36 of 109

Entry to The Slot at Squaw

Last spring, I was with 3 buddies and was about to drop in & everybody else wanted to bail. So, I bailed too (didn't put up much of an argument). Didn't/doesn't seem particularly "extreme", but that's the last bailout I can name.

I did take some "redeeming" lines down to Silverado, so I have that going for me, which is nice...
post #37 of 109
Happens all the time.

I usually decide on my line, walk back up the hill 10-15 feet and then just jump in. I don't know why, but when I am looking I often can't go for it. Get me moving and I am fine.

It is a 3 second rule for me. If I stop and look at it for more than 3 seconds, I need to walk back and jump in, under 3 seconds and I am fine.

I backed out only twice:

Delirium Dive
Spankys Ladder
post #38 of 109
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Originally Posted by Marty
Happened just 2 days back at Snowbird. Went on Cirque traverse and dropped down into the trees right above Mid Gad Restaurant. hung a right. Whoopeee Doo. Came across a chute - what i believe is referred to as Nirvana Shoulder. It looked like it was about 50 deg for about 3,4 turns there. chickened out. went around it but got back into it about half way down - where it was a more reasonable 40 deg pitch.

will get to it some other day.
I know exactly that spot, Marty - Nirvana Shoulder is what I've always heard it called too.

I've measured it with an inclinometer and depending on how the snow has blown in, it's an honest 48 degrees for about six or eight turns. Just for reference, it's steeper than anything inbounds at Jackson Hole (other than the vertical spots ). Just to spice it up, that little face on Nirvana drops into a pine-tree strainer, which adds to the commitment factor.

There's actually a shoulder-wide slot that drops about thirty feet through the trees at the skiers-right bottom of that face. I've skied that slot a couple of times in absolutely perfect condtions, but that's *my* back-off run. I've backed off it far more times than I've skied it. Meet Your Maker here at Jackson Hole feels pretty tame in comparison.

And for those of you who have backed off Corbet's, you most likely made the right decision. It's pretty ugly a high percentage of the time. If you're lucky enough to be one of the first ones there on a big powder day, it can be a kick. Other than those days, it's best left to the obsessed and and those who occupy the far left-hand side of the IQ bell curve.
Bob
post #39 of 109
Thought I'd throw in some from a place unmentioned so far. The hike up Fantasy Ridge at Solitude turns back some. From the top of Honeycomb cliffs there are a number of "shots" (a dozen or so?) . Each trip along the ridge I look at most of these and back off. There are only 2 or 3 that I've ventured down.
post #40 of 109
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Originally Posted by Pierre
The area left of the North Face is called Rachell's and the Glades. It rates at the very top of my list of the places I love to ski. Its like playing a chess game. There are many ways through it even in low snow cover. Its interesting cuz you never know whats going to pop up next. A more difficult area is the area left of the Headwall directly above the top of Paradise lift. That section is trickier and has a few no go areas in it.

Crested Butte has some wonderful areas still left for hiking. As you might guess its still my favorite resort. The lack of snow only adds to my enjoyment of the area. Some of the traverses are worse than the skiing.
The way I looked at the run that day, it was a linked series of 12-14 foot pillow drops with a 30 footer mandatory air with a short runout. I figured I had a 90% chance of doing each element individually, but if I screwed up on any one of them I'd be bouncing down the rest.

I hit Headwall as well and saw some cliffs there with some severe pucker-inducing drops. That whole area is just nice, challenging skiing. They were running the World Extreme Skiing Championships one of the weeks I was there last year.

The Butte has to be my favorite resort as well.
post #41 of 109
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider

Is this the one?


Droooollll.... that looks AWESOME!
post #42 of 109
Gonzo- That drop into the Cirque with Weems was, I think, the hairiest thing I have done on skis (particularly the jump onto that ledge from which we actually entered the chute- that was the real scary part, not the chute itself! That, and doing it with my arm in that splint....). I think that we entered actually below the upper part of Great Scott. I never would have had the nerve to ski that without Weems leading us there, that's for sure!

I remember peering down into the Couloir Extreme (then called Saudan Couloir) at Blackcomb about 10 years ago and thinking I wouldn't go in there without an ice axe and crampons, but I am not sure now that it was much less steep than what we skied at Snowbird.
post #43 of 109
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Originally Posted by skion
Happens all the time.

I usually decide on my line, walk back up the hill 10-15 feet and then just jump in. I don't know why, but when I am looking I often can't go for it. Get me moving and I am fine.

It is a 3 second rule for me. If I stop and look at it for more than 3 seconds, I need to walk back and jump in, under 3 seconds and I am fine.

I backed out only twice:

Delirium Dive
Spankys Ladder
That pretty much describes the way I use to do it.
post #44 of 109
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Originally Posted by Marty
Happened just 2 days back at Snowbird. Went on Cirque traverse and dropped down into the trees right above Mid Gad Restaurant. hung a right. Whoopeee Doo. Came across a chute - what i believe is referred to as Nirvana Shoulder. It looked like it was about 50 deg for about 3,4 turns there. chickened out. went around it but got back into it about half way down - where it was a more reasonable 40 deg pitch.
Nirvana is where I encountered the first telemark skier I had ever seen. This was back in around 79-80.

I could not believe my eyes. I skied right up to them and asked what they were doing in there on cross country skis. They skied away. I skied back up and demanded they talk to me about it as I was totally facinated with what I saw. They said it was telemark and that if I was interested go find someone who gave a sht. They directed me to a shop down in Sandy.

The next day I rented a pair of those things and went to solitude. I got right on the chair that only services black diamonds and went to the top. Big mistake I was black and blue by the time I got to the bottom and could not walk. That was back in the days when a beating like that put a smile on my face as I had found my new challenge. I took the skis back, black and blue and the guy said "So it ain't for you". I took out my credit card and said sell me everything. $600 later I walked out with everything I needed. It sure was a hoot back in the midwest as no one had ever seen telemark.

Is Nirvana the chute that goes around a curve part way down and looks like you're going to be flushed down a toilet?
post #45 of 109
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider

Is this the one?



I beleive that is it, yes, although I don't remember the rock wall on the right of the picture being that big.
post #46 of 109
Wow!! Excellent thread. I'd give anything just to even whimp out at Corbet's. Besides isn't there a way down without the leap?
post #47 of 109
Blow Hole -- Blackhomb
Gowdy's -- Snowmass (but I eventually skied it!!)
post #48 of 109
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Originally Posted by PA Ridge Racer
Wow!! Excellent thread. I'd give anything just to even whimp out at Corbet's. Besides isn't there a way down without the leap?
There is.

It's called "rappelling".

Bob
post #49 of 109
Dodge's Drop.

I was hiking back from Gulf of Slides and thought I was at the top of Hillman's.

Wrong
post #50 of 109
Hey guys, the run I almost peed my selft on was in Russia, the mountain called Cheget (near Elbrus). This one is called "Dollar" because it look like S.

Here is a dollars' entrance:


Here is another pic, but is strange one because it doesn't look as steep as it is.
post #51 of 109
no it looks pretty steep!
post #52 of 109
I was 14 when my father took me on the dollar for the first time in my life.
post #53 of 109
those big bowls to the left of the saddle at whistler. like instead of going to the saddle tkae the bowls. i could if i had to but i decided the saddle would have been easier on me.
post #54 of 109
I haven't had a chance to whimp out yet at Corbet's, but I don't plan on it when I go there in March.

The only trail I can think of where I almost whimped out on was near the entrance of Rock Island and KT Gully at Snowmass. It was a windy day and the snow was cruddy as hell, so I didn't feel safe at all on the toothpicks I was riding. The slope down was quite narrow. I made it down alright, but at first I had second thoughts.
post #55 of 109
Do me a favor and take a picture from the cornice when you arrive at corbets, then take a second one from below looking up, or have someone take a picture of you going off. Its an awesome feeling to stand there.

post #56 of 109
Every black diamond north of Connecticut. The ones in Connecticut are hilariously EZ. I don't exaggerate in saying that many greens in Vermont would be BLACKS in Connecticut. But what would you expect?
post #57 of 109
I used to challenge myself on every mad descent available (can't recall all the names). Unless I did it, I couldn't live with myself. Once, on a nasty Gondola run, I hit a tree at 50 mph, lost my spleen and left elbow (still functions - just can't straighten).

I'm 51 on Thursday, and the body's relatively intact. One reason: accepting limitations.

The one thing you don't often hear about "extreme" skiers (McConkey, Nobis, etc.) is how many times they go under the knife. I've known a few, and it's lots. Virtually all the TGR stars pay the price.

All I'm saying is: there's no shame in turning away if your gut tells you to. If you feel you've got to go each time, the law of numbers will eventually get you.
post #58 of 109
I'll back out of Kirkwood's Heart Chute 9.9999 out of 10 times I look down it. And I probably should have backed out for this 0.0001 too:
http://www.kirkwood.com/images/galle...020604b640.jpg
post #59 of 109
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
Along with Phil P., I'll also admit that I've passed several times on that ugly icy headwall on lower Dynamite at Tremblant. But there would have been little gained by tossing myself down that piece of crap.
Heh, too right.

I did it once . . . . started off slipping and never actually made the turn


My instructor's young daughter (pre-teens, I guess) went straight down it. Never have I felt so inadequate
post #60 of 109
Well I didn't wimp out, and technically speaking I wasn't skiing either (carrying the skis) but the ridge down from the Aguile Du Midi to where you put your skis on to go into the Vallee Blanche had my knees knocking.

The path was very narrow, icy, and a 300+ foot drop both sides down very, very steep slopes.

Yes you are roped together, and yes there is a rope-rail to hold on to....but it is scary!

The next day my right hand was stiff thenks to a death-grip on the rope all the way down. I didn't even know I had such a strong grip!
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