Originally Posted by PaulR
I wonder how such advice or teaching would be taken, however.
"Hi, I noticed that you straightlined that narrow passage and almost rammed a couple kids. There is a rule about the downhill skier having the right of way. I wasn't sure if you were aware of this and I am just trying to help out."
Would the response be:?
"Thank you for pointing out that I was in the wrong. I will make every effort to follow the rules in the future"
I don't think so.
For 12-22 year olds the response would probably be one of the following:
"Eat me"", Up Yours", "I like living on the edge dude" .
For 23 to 40 year olds the response would probably be:
"Mind your own business", "Who died and made you the boss?", "I paid $42 for this lift ticket and will ski how I want"
My view is it takes authority figures to really get the message to sink in. Not too many kids would terll a patroller to "Bite me" if approached with an educational message. Thats why I favor safety patrollers at resorts. Not Ski Patrollers but simply safety guides whose only task is to look out for this type of behavior and educate, or if needed discipline violators. They could be vollunteers, get free season passes etc for working once a week.
I've been in both positions, as safety (we called them Mountain Rangers), and as Patrol. The answers I get usually fall into 3 catagories.
1) "I'm sorry, I'll never do it again" sometimes, I have gotten that before he even knew what I was stopping him for. If I figure the guy is full of crap, I pull his lift ticket anyway, but if I think there is some sincerity in it, I let him go after a little talking to.....
2) "I didn't know/realize" I usually let them go when I see they actually unnderstand what I stopped them for.
3)"But I WAS
<in control,etc>" in which case I give them MY definition of being in control, and explain why it's dangerous to do what they did. If they see my point, I let them go also, but sometimes they just don't see the light.
I've have gotten the "bite me" response once. From a 18 YO Punk/boyfriend of a marketing dept. woman's 17 YO daughter,. He was skiing on a free ticket. Real rocket scientist. He never got another freebie ticket again....
Remember though, I can get security waiting for me (following them) at the bottom of the hill within a minute of me radioing them...