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Australia was robbed

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Nothing irks Europeans more than a non-European team beating them in the World Cup. Its even worse if the team isn't from South America. The penalty kick call in overtime in the Aussie-Italy match was bogus. Australia was robbed.
post #2 of 23
Although not a soccer/football fan Rio, I have to agree. If the Euros really want countries where soccer/football is not the core sport (eg USA, Australia ...) to participate and for the public to take other than a passing interest, they (i.e. countries like Australia & USA) must be given a fair chance.

In Australia there are four major codes of football played. Soccer/football has the highest junior participation rate, but as a senior sport runs a distant last, with the lowest sponsorship, crowd attendances and television coverage.

Australia's participation at this World Cup had sparked this country's imagination. In a country of $20 m people, last night over 2.5 m television sets were turned on as people stayed up to watch the game (which ran from 1 am to 3 am last night). To exit with a dodgy penalty in the last 10 seconds of the match was not just cruel, it was hoax.

If thats the way the traditional soccer/footballing powers want to run their game then they can shove it.
post #3 of 23
Oh shut up you whinging cons!

Yes, the Aussies played well. Yes, they dived almost as well as the Italians. Yes, it is a shame that one team had to lose.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by Rio
Nothing irks Europeans more than a non-European team beating them in the World Cup.
Don't agree with this - have you got anything more than personal opinion to back it up ?

There have been a lot of bad decisions by many refs of different nationalities in the this world cup, even some non-european players have benefitted from refs decisions. It's just another bad decision that some people will turn into something more.

Here in Europe we're not afraid of competition, all our big sports are open to international competition. We don't always need two European sides battling it out. We really respect people who take on the internation challenge and come out tops (e.g. Lance Armstrong). The same cannot be said for other countries.

Now international boxing and Don King is another story .....
post #5 of 23
Now Fox what happened in the Lansdowne Cup on Sunday? That's real football and the only diving was for the try line.
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by Taxman
Now Fox what happened in the Lansdowne Cup on Sunday? That's real football and the only diving was for the try line.
I didn't see it. Did anyone manage to dive as far as the Aussie last night who got the Italian sent off? (I reckon he covered at least 10 yards in the slide)
post #7 of 23
Never mind yellow or red cards, those refs should be giving out Oscars.

If Australia would of played Switzzerland this wouldn't of happened.
post #8 of 23
Italian football team training http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3loV1bVJw
post #9 of 23
Is that the Guardian advert again?
post #10 of 23
...or is it Bresciano showing them how to really dive???


This pic was taken at one of his training sessions.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
...or is it Bresciano showing them how to really dive???
Its the Italian heritage
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Taxman
Its the Italian heritage
What? You mean the whinging cons couldn't even put together a team of their fellow countrymen, so resorted to bringing in outsiders, and now you want to blame the outsiders?
post #13 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rio
Nothing irks Europeans more than a non-European team beating them in the World Cup. Its even worse if the team isn't from South America. The penalty kick call in overtime in the Aussie-Italy match was bogus. Australia was robbed.
That is not true. World Cup certainly does much to foster xenophobia.

However, in the UK, latins have long been regarded as despicable cheats.

So, last night on the BBC we were treated to highlights of Chile versus Italy from the 1962 World Cup. This match is in the running for 'The worst World Cup match ever' - fighting and cheating at every opportunity (in the days before cards were used in refereeing matchs).

World champion cheat title would go to Argentina. Sir Alf Ramsey, a gent of the old school, referred to them as behaving like 'animals'. Having been at the match in Wembley where their captain was sent off, I would agree with Sir Alf. Uruguay would be up there too - but there international side has not been prominent for some decades.

Italy is better known for negative defensive play-'catenaccio' but they are well able to cheat when the occasion calls for it.

I was supporting Australia.
post #14 of 23
What saddens me...much more than a dive here, and a loss there (and believe me, I'm infuriated by the US losses) is that overriding story of theis world cup is not the players, the little team from nowhere, the ball, or anything else that the players can control. the story is the refereeing. that bad calls, the preponderance of cards (more in this cup so far than any other complete tournament - why should I even know that?). The players who have worked so hard for 4 years deserve more than that....
post #15 of 23
I got to watch that goal in the North-end of Bah-ston. No one there acted like it was a robbery.
post #16 of 23

speaking of futbol

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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I got to watch that goal in the North-end of Bah-ston. No one there acted like it was a robbery.
Nor did they find it particularly troublesome when work-release convict Mark Henderson used a snowplow to clear a spot for John Smith to kick the winning field goal in New England's 3-0 victory against the Miami Dolphins in the "Snowplow Game" at Foxboro in '82.
post #17 of 23
Warning: Strong Language.

This is allegedly how the Sydney Morning Herald reacted to the match. I just love the restraint of the Aussie Press...

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1...esmh6kw1zf.jpg
post #18 of 23

Aussie played so well

Well, It is ... for the Aussie. They played very well against the Italian. Now, they have to wait for another four years to come back...hmm It's bull.. for them.
post #19 of 23

Soccer

Was in Europe during lst 10 days of World Cup, so in wanting a Carlberg Pilsner in the eve I sat in the pubs and watched soccer with the addicts, I really made a sincere empathetic attempt to get into the game. Sorry but Nil to 1 and Nil/Nil just didm't do it for me. The most obvious aspect I really had to even laugh about was the acting jobs. I thought the NBA players had the oscars for Flopping, hey the NBA actors don't even hold a candle next to these poor guys. If NFL guys did this much flopping and acting the games would last 12 hours. 45min of guys running around with not even l shot on goal does not peak any sports endorfins in me. Oh well I tried.
post #20 of 23
Instant replays combined with retrospective punishments would solve most of the snide cheating.

Overturn results or do whatever it takes.

You would only need to make a few examples to cut this stuff out.

There will be the usual excuses about interruptions and cost of cameras.

A world event can afford a few extra cameras. Local games may not be able to implement this but introduce for big events anyway.

Interruptions could be minimised by reviewing much of the action retrospectively.
post #21 of 23
Shall we propose to FIFA that sportsmanship be more highly valued? "Selling" a foul could be removed from the game if we stopped accepting the theatrics as part of the game.

How about:
A player who goes down "writhing in pain" be "allowed to recuperate" for a 3 minute time off the pitch. Play a man down to long, and something will happen. Incentivising honest responses to normal game events.

Video review for non-contact simulations could get the player "awarded" an additional "stat" to his personal record. Caps, goals in international play, SIMULATIONS!
Perhaps something added like: Three and you skip a game, or something of the like. This proposed in preference to real time review of the play and the bother of stopping the flow of the game.

Let's just say NO to rule beating!
apply freely to all sports and to our every day lives.

We can change, start with our own expectations, pass them on to our kids.


Cal
post #22 of 23
Thread Starter 
A couple years ago at the U-18 World Cup they reviewed the games on video afterwards. Any blatant dives they found resulted in the player being suspended for the next game. It is sad they have to resort to something like that.
post #23 of 23
In Australian Rule Football (BTW it was Mark Twain's favourite football code), the tribunal can bring a charge against a player of "bringing the game into disrepute", which can lead to a suspension and/or fine. The charge can be levelled for on and off field behaviour in relation to the league. It would be nice to see a similar rule adopted by FIFA against serial actors.
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