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... of the ACL, that is. Recovering from knee surgery (ACL + cartilage damage) and reading threads about recent changes in FIS regulations, with some rationale for changes being to prevent injury) got me wondering what skis to start out with when I get the OK to ski again sometime next winter. Is it correct to think that shorter-radius skis are more likely to stress the ACL? What are the characteristics of a ski that affect risk of knee injury? Is ski design even a risk factor for mere mortals, i.e. recreational skiers not FIS racers?

I'll be skiing eastern hardpack for the most part, shorter hills, and can choose from:

Dynastar Omecarve 10 (2004) - 165 cm - 115/65/104 (R=12)
Rossi T-Power 9S (2002) - 160 cm -- 103/65/93 (R=15)
Rossi T-Power 9X (2002) - 174 cm -- 103/65/93 (R=18)
Fischer Bix Stix 7.6 (2004) - 175 cm - 115/76/100 (R=21)

My hunch is to stay off the Dynastars, start out on the 9S or 9X. I haven't skied the 9X yet (recent impulse buy on eBay) but the 9S seems versatile, OK at moderate as well as full speed, and not demanding constant input like the Dynastars. The Big Stix are easy easy enough in long turns but a little more work to tighten up; for eastern skiing I use them (a) in fresh snow, or (b) on bigger mountains (i.e., bigger than my usual 1000' hills).

Make sense?
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If I were you I would probably ski on the OmeCarve. Yes I know it has the most sidecut, but the chances are pretty good tht you can already handle that amount of cut and will not have to worry about the skis whipping around underneath you or hooking on you. The reason I would point you in the direction of tht ski hat they are very easy to ski on. They practically do everything for you at a range of speeds. They wouldnt require a lot of rotary input (if ever) to ski on the for a day, which will likely be easier on your knee. If you are using a brace while skiing (which I would if you are concerned about the stability of the knee) then you should be able to ski on pretty much anything as long as you find that the leg is stable. Your next good bet would be the 9S, but I recall having a pair and they are not nearly as easy to ski on as modern more shapely skis...
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Thanks Greg. I guess its the old "YMMV" -- for me the 9S seemed less demanding and the OmeCarve's made me knee hurt. Then again, I picked up the OmeCarve's this season after the injury ... so I'll give 'em another try with my new and improved knee (and a brace of course).
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I'm going to disagree somewhat with Greg. Keep in mind that I've also undergone microfracture similar to yours.

When I first got back on skis after my eight-month sabbatical, I only wanted to slide around on snow. I didn't want a ski that was inclined to rail around a turn, I just wanted to skid down the hill and feel the snow again.

To me, the Fischers are your most forgiving and skiddable skis. Those are the ones I would choose for your first few outings. I just believe that fatter skis in general are more forgiving and therefore better for this situation. Once you're got a few days under your belt, you'll be able to tell very quickly whether the knee feels good enough to apply a little carved-edge pressure to. :

Good luck with the rehab and your return to the snow.
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Actually Bob, I have no disagreement at all. It will probably be entirely decided by what ts01's knee feels up to. I had a girl on my ski team that had an unhappy triad injury, plus some other significant dammage to her ligaments and cartilage a few seasons ago. When she first went out (with a brace of course) she stuck to flat groomers (making something that resembles a regular open parallel/arced turn) with her SL skis becase she could still go slow and control the skis very easily. Her knee was technically healed but it was more about getting her comfort level back and getting used to skiing with the brace on her leg. Ts01, being that Bob has gone through a similar injury you might follow his advice depending on what type of turn you feel most comfortable with.
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Thanks to you both. I'll bring a couple and play with what feels right.

Unfortunately I'm not technically adept enough to know what type of turn I'm most comfortable with. As a relatively new skier (5 yrs into it), I never skied straight skis and don't think I skid that much, but my kids tell me I suck at carving and throw up snow sprays. But for the most part on the shorter icier hills what I really love is the feeling of crossing over the skis with my inside and outside legs alternately flexing and extending, and skis on edge to the point where there's some g-force in the turn. The Omecarves just add a lot more "whip" to the turn, compared to the Rossi's. I can ski the Fischers the same way, but generally it takes more room to do so. Of course I can also just stand up on the Fischers and point them downhill and they feel much more stable ... which I guess is what Bob's getting at.
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