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Fischer Big Stix to Seth Vicious?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I've been looking into the Seth Vicous for quite some time now. It has been my dream ski. I used to ski on the Fischer Big STix 7.6 165cm. I like them alot. They do nice on the moguls and on the groomers, I just havn't been too pleased with their performance in powder and their cliff hucks. I now am looking for a +90mm ski. I just recently got the opportunity to buy the Seth Vicious in 169 or 179. I am quite an aggressive skier and I am 5'9" and about 145lbs. I like to ski mosly in BC and off piste. :

I was just wondering if the Seth Vicious would be a good ski to buy. If so, what size? Would it be an awkward jump from my Fischers? I mainly want a ski for powder and cliff hucks, but still could do some other things. Any other skis that I could maybe look into.
All help would be appreciated. Thanks
post #2 of 21
Yeah the Vicious would be a good ski for that, and also for crud. I would choose the longer length since the twin takes away some of that.

A couple others are the Rossi Scratch BC, Volkl Gotama, PM Gear Bro (probably the most lauded of all of this group, but hard to find), K2 Apache Chief, Rossi B4. There are more but I forget. Just look at this http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=41028
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Did I mention most of my skiing would be in Utah... If that makes any difference.
post #4 of 21
The 179 Seth Viscious is just what you are looking for my friend....if you plan on being super aggressive and killing it then step up to the Dynastar Legend Pro, which is supposed to be available this season in a 176 (think stiffer, damper, more stable, better on piste but more work in lower angle pow)...

....whatever you get, don't get frustrated early on....it'll take a few days (think 5-15 days depending on ability) to get used to the edge-to-edge slowness of the fatties but once you do you will never go back....
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
I'm just worried about the 179 length being to long in the trees. Would it make that much difference from the 169? The 169 is also easier to find, all the stores have the 169's in stock but not the 179.
post #6 of 21
179 SV is what you want. It has alotta of sidecut for fat ski, and with the twin its skis shorter than it is. they rip on groomers, with some slight floppiness at speed on groomers or crud(slow speed crud pretty good). Awesome in the trees at alta/bird.

I am making my Gotamas touring skis, and looked at these and several other for my resort fat ski. they kinda of remind of pocket rocket with slighty more guts.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Alta Skier
I'm just worried about the 179 length being to long in the trees. Would it make that much difference from the 169? The 169 is also easier to find, all the stores have the 169's in stock but not the 179.
The 169 is too short...trust me

My wife is your size (almost exactly) and she loved the 179 vicious, as well as the 179 Bro Model (which skis pretty similar to the SV)....the vicious is very easy to ski and skis short so the 169 just won't give you the stability you'll need in off-piste conditions.

btw - I think there are 179 SVs on ebay right now....
post #8 of 21
If you want the float in powder, then go long. You won't regret it.
post #9 of 21
I am 5'9 160-170lb and have skied on this ski before.

Dont go shorter than 179cm for sure, if your jumping cliffs the longer length will be more stable on landings, and cause less "over the handle bars" feeling. get the 179cm mount any binding but markers on to it, rip alta/bird apart end of story.

BTW the maggots that you will be skiing around might laugh at 169s. unless of course you are girl but even then still get the 179s anywho.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
Great! 179's it is.
2 more questions.
Is the 06/07 model different from the 05/06?
and
Where should I mount my bindings? +3? 0?
Thanks
BTW I'm a male...I don't like to get in fights w/ 200 lb+ guys...
post #11 of 21
the 06/07 model is the same ski but has different graphics. As to mounting its down to personal preference. Remember the mounting graph on the side of the ski is 2cm off, so +2 is actually 0. I would be tempted to go around +3-5 (which is really +1 to +3). I am around the same weight as you and am going to have mine mounted at +4. I reckon there shouldnt be any tip dive at my weight at this. Try and get some rossignol axial bindings or look p14 (I think). k2factoryteam.com has loadsa info on mounting in their forums.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Edmundh009
Remember the mounting graph on the side of the ski is 2cm off, so +2 is actually 0.
Where did you hear that from?

Are you saying there's a fault in manufacturing, and the core centre isn't where they have marked it?
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
Alrighty! Does someone want to tell me how this setup sounds?

06/07 179cm Seth Vicious (the new red one) w/ Rossignol Axial 1 120 Wide Bindings. About $700
I was thinking about mounting them at +4 because I want to be able to have quick responsiveness and still have plenty of float.(I am rather small) Riding switch is not a priority.
Thanx
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Alta Skier
Alrighty! Does someone want to tell me how this setup sounds?

06/07 179cm Seth Vicious (the new red one) w/ Rossignol Axial 1 120 Wide Bindings. About $700
I was thinking about mounting them at +4 because I want to be able to have quick responsiveness and still have plenty of float.(I am rather small) Riding switch is not a priority.
Thanx
Good setup, extremely bad price. At least for me. Maybe it's just cause I got some fairly used Mad Trix Mojo's+Axial1 110's for a grand total of 170+shipping...Seems to me you're overpaying though. There's at least one used SV (I think 179) that's on ebay right now for like $250 (hasn't met reserve though and 3 or 4 days left) mounted with looks. Better deal IMO
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
I checked the SV's on ebay...
Good ski, even though it's used. There is only one problem. I checked the size boot the bindings were mounted for, not only were they at 0 (I want mine at +4) they were mounted for a boot bigger than mine. I would buy if the bindings were suited to what I needed/wanted, but this is a big investment for me, I dont want to make a mistake.

I could also buy the 07 flat for $550.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Alta Skier
I checked the SV's on ebay...
Good ski, even though it's used. There is only one problem. I checked the size boot the bindings were mounted for, not only were they at 0 (I want mine at +4) they were mounted for a boot bigger than mine. I would buy if the bindings were suited to what I needed/wanted, but this is a big investment for me, I dont want to make a mistake.

I could also buy the 07 flat for $550.
Remount those suckers

550 is still quite alot, just wait until the beginning of year clearances for the price to lower. I think many dealers try to sell them now as a kind of OMG YOU CAN HAVE NEXT YEAR'S SKIS NOW thing, so they raise the price. Keep checking around the usual selling spots for SV's from last season, and if nothing comes up then you can spring for the SV's in the beginning of next season.
post #17 of 21
Alta Skier:

I disagree w/ 3 ES, that $700.00 sounds like a respectable deal:

$550 for a Brand new version of the SV and $150 for the Axial2 Ti . I'm feeling that is about they best deal youre gonna get absent a special discount or pro form deal.

You really cant compare it to the used Sv on EBay that needs a re-drill price wise.

No prob w/ used skis but compare apples to apples.

G
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
great, good to hear.
I should have asked this earlier, but how does this ski perform on conditions where it maybe hasn't snowed for quite some time? Moguls,hardpack,etc... will it do okay as an everyday ski? I know it will do well in powder and cliffs but I'm still not sure about its edge grip and quickness.
Thanks
post #19 of 21
It's not a 1 ski does it all, and if you are going long for your weight, you may well struggle on piste. They aren't quick edge to edge. BUT... I have done a human slalom on Pistols, which was the last time I saw true fear in people's eyes...

My pistols are mounted at +2, which is not far off where Steve Bagely has since measured me for on the Campbell Balance.
post #20 of 21
I ski 07' Vicious 179's and love emm, great skis i originaly mounted them @ midsole but soon to be +2. They have become my everyday ski just because ther soo fun. I recomend you go the 179 as 169's are bitch skis.
Nick
post #21 of 21
I'd better buy a pair of 169s for my ex then...
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