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Urgent advice for a novice !!!

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I'm a beginner, had about 4 days of skiing mostly on rental equipment. I bought a pair of new Salomon Prolink Equipe 3S 190cm. By the way, I'm 5'10" 170 lb. The guy told me that these are good beginner skis. However, a friend reckons these are slalom skis for advance skiers.

I need urgent advice on what to do. I can return these in a week.

Thanks in advance
post #2 of 20
Unless I am very much mistaken (which is not the first time and would not be the last), the skis you bought are rather advanced skis, almost good enough for racing in their days, which is about 4-5 years ago.

So, I guess the shop mis-sold to you either by mistake or...

Would you care to share with us where you bought the skis from?
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barry
Would you care to share with us where you bought the skis from?
I bought it on ebay, from an online store. However, they've given me wrong information.

Thanks very much for your reply
post #4 of 20
Manny, get rid of them - they'll hold you back.
I think they are about 6+ years old. They are about 20cm too long for you, and will be too stiff - so you won't be able to progress quickly.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
Manny, get rid of them - they'll hold you back.
I think they are about 6+ years old. They are about 20cm too long for you, and will be too stiff - so you won't be able to progress quickly.
I've e-mailed them. Lets see what they say.

Thanks for your advice
post #6 of 20
Umm, 190cm skis for a beginner not even bohemouths would run a 190cm ski if they were a beginner. :
post #7 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by mountain_man
Umm, 190cm skis for a beginner not even bohemouths would run a 190cm ski if they were a beginner. :
There's not many advanced skiers would even venture that long on-piste (unless they were compensating for problems in the trouser department...)
post #8 of 20
You do not want these. If I were to design a ski not to learn on, I would take some input from old SL skis.
post #9 of 20
Send them back. They are not fit for the intended purpose.

I highly recommend a subscription to realskiers.com ski reviews; they do a fairly good job, and go back several years. You can look up stats on many of the skis that you might see on e-bay.
post #10 of 20
Have fun with Ebay!!!! I'll bet you got a GREAT deal. Enjoy.
post #11 of 20
If someone actually said "these are good beginner skis" for you then they were either lying or had no idea what they were talking about. I am 6'5", 210 lbs., and an expert skier, and I would hesitate to use those skis in that length. It appears to be older equipment that they couldn't sell, probably because of how long they are. I agree, get something around a 170 cm ski and you will be much happier.
post #12 of 20
"...they were either lying or had no idea what they were talking about."

On Ebay?

Lying? Incompetence?

Never!!!
post #13 of 20
Whiteroom,
Do I detect a slight hostility towards eBay in your messages, or are you just trolling??

I buy almost everything from eBay these days. I do spend more time shopping and checking out the seller before breaking out the CC, but that is the time I would have spent driving between shops anyway. I have nailed some really great buys (and passed on some incredible doofus deals).

Oh Yeah, Manny, if you took delivery then send those skiis back. Hopefully you were able to cancel before paying round trip shipping. Then take your time and really investigate manufacturer sites and other reviews on any ski before buying it.
post #14 of 20
Stache, yes I get annoyed when someone asks "did I buy the right thing?" or my personal favorite "did I get SOLD the wrong thing?"

Yes I laugh at someone who bought a 190cm SL ski off eBay as a begginer ski. Thats funny. No reputable shop in the world would do that, but someone anonomously on eBay, god bless 'em, sure will.

Let the buyer beware.

And by the way, what really happened here. Did someone tell 'Manny' that this WAS a beginner ski or did Manny ask for a great bargain and if 'the ski could work for a beginner' and in his zeal to save as much as possible went with a cheap ski that was hugely discounted and 'could work for a beginner'? It will slide downhill, so it will 'work'.

I'm betting that this is the scenario. Manny probably wasn't lied to, he probably was allowed to purchase inappropriate equipment because he wanted the best DEAL not the best TOOL FOR THE JOB. You get what you pay for. and this is MUCH more likely to happen on ebay.

You're also very likely to be buying stolen or counterfeit equipment. There is a great article in this months Bicycle Retailer about eBay and the amount of STOLEN items on it and eBay's complete lack of concern. Ever had a pair of skis stolen? Did you enjoy that feeling? Do you want others to experience that feeling? Yeah, I don't like eBay.
post #15 of 20
We all have free will, do what ever is right for you. Buy where you feel good spending your hard earned money.

A post on Epic Ski asking if a 190cm SL ski, produced probably in 1998, was an appropriate ski purchase for a beginner deserves some heckling.
post #16 of 20
I had some of those. Great zipper line mogul skis but worthless for much else. They are too narrow, too hyper, too long and too stiff for you.
post #17 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
There's not many advanced skiers would even venture that long on-piste (unless they were compensating for problems in the trouser department...)
My first skis were 205 cm and were virtually straight. Somehow, with leather boots barely above the ankle we were supposted to turn these things. Great fun! I'd highly recommend it....if it was 1965.

Manny, lots of easier ways to learn. Getting a shorter ski, with a forgiving flex and a shape that helps you to make turns is among the many advantages of being a beginner today. Speaking of boots, most of us here consider that an even more important decision. What you might think fits, probably doesn't. Read some of the threads, ask questions, return those 190 prolinks. Good luck. And BTW, I hear there is a great sale on this outfit

post #18 of 20
I have had many, many expriences in "shops" .... usually the high volume metro stores ... where the sales "staff" has tried to push the wildest stuff on me.

They are sent onto the sales floor with a pitch from management to get rid of that "long stuff" and wait for some "dopey old guy" ... "Ricky Retro" type who will take the bait.

I rarely go into these stores but my work partner likes to shop on our lunch break ... so I humor him and cruise the floor.

I even started trying to wear my "pest control gear" ..... my rep jacket and PSIA ball cap. I figure that this will keep the shist slinging factor at a minimum. It doesn't.

Buy by the net .... die by the net .... just another way to hawk junk.

Hit a guy at a yard sale this week who tried to chat me up on his pile of ancient skis and fishing gear. I kinda' feel sorry for him cause he is a local "ner' do well" who cruises the town after the yard sales and picks the junk for free and then tries to hawk it at his "never ending garage sale". Each ski had a story ... : all total BS ... but it was a cheap side show.
post #19 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stache
Whiteroom,
Do I detect a slight hostility towards eBay in your messages, or are you just trolling??
I don't know why, but this post raised my hackles also. I've bought many skis on Ebay, so that's not the problem. Possibility of being stolen, never occurred to me.
The fact that this should be what a ski shop is for, beginner packages to the just getting started, and the fact that the internet is taking away this business also, could be part of the reason.
the fact that some anonymous expert on the internet sold this guy a bill of goods, when everyone knows I'm the only expert on the internet, maybe.
The picture of this guy trying to control those skis and giving up skiing, when a decent pair of beginner skis would have sold him on the sport forever, maybe.

None, or all of the above. All I know is that Manny's post bothered the heck out of me.
PS- If it's a troll, it's a good one.
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks very much for all your support. Whiteroom, you're really depressed. I feel sorry for you. This is a forum. A forum for everyone to come and discuss whatever they like, even though it may look stupid to some old fart like you in skiing!!!

They ski was advertised as perfect for beginners & experts. It was brand new. Anyhow, I've not recieved a reply from the seller after I enquired about this. By the way, I have't deposited money. Nothing wrong with buying stuff from ebay.

After all this, I searched & found the receipt from ski rental shop. I called them & they informed me that I had 160cm skis, DIN 5, 125cm poles etc. Not sure they were carved or not as it was two years ago. I read lots of articles since than. I've learnt that I should buy a 160-170cm carved ski.

Love you all for helping me out. Peace
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