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post #61 of 69
grz, I'm with you (and Tief) on this. I have always appreciated Tief's posts here, and believe he's likely an exceptional teacher--as are so many who post here. There are some who do not treat civilly others who post here, and we have seen our share of religious battles that fight over ethereal concepts.

We have also seen our share of substantive discussions diminished by those who claim that they are simply religious. It is the walking of that tightrope which is the difficulty the Mod Squad faces in helping to maintain and/or improve the environment for these discussions.

For example, I myself have been accused of bias which (as far as I consciously know!) doesn't exist. I do the very best that I know how (within the bounds of conscious thought) to remain as objective as I possibly can. The addition of a team of moderators was primarily to help with the level of objectivity and give all of us an opportunity for sounding boards before we take action. I think that the IM networks have lost bandwidth as a result of our real-time discussions on various threads and topics!

So, if I may be allowed an honest question of those who are most interested in the environment of the Technique forums: how would you have the Mod Squad judge the propriety of posts within threads?
post #62 of 69
I don't like the sub-forum idea. Don't think we need it. I think ssh's comment below sums it up quite nicely...

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Originally Posted by ssh
...I think it attempts to solve a problem which, for the most part, doesn't exist...
post #63 of 69
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Originally Posted by ssh
grz, I'm with you (and Tief) on this. I have always appreciated Tief's posts here, and believe he's likely an exceptional teacher--as are so many who post here. There are some who do not treat civilly others who post here, and we have seen our share of religious battles that fight over ethereal concepts.

We have also seen our share of substantive discussions diminished by those who claim that they are simply religious. It is the walking of that tightrope which is the difficulty the Mod Squad faces in helping to maintain and/or improve the environment for these discussions.

For example, I myself have been accused of bias which (as far as I consciously know!) doesn't exist. I do the very best that I know how (within the bounds of conscious thought) to remain as objective as I possibly can. The addition of a team of moderators was primarily to help with the level of objectivity and give all of us an opportunity for sounding boards before we take action. I think that the IM networks have lost bandwidth as a result of our real-time discussions on various threads and topics!

So, if I may be allowed an honest question of those who are most interested in the environment of the Technique forums: how would you have the Mod Squad judge the propriety of posts within threads?
Iwould have them follow the posts more often in the tech forums and see if you can cajole the posterers into a civil path through suggestions by PM. Not the content but to contain the word wars that make personal the discussions

For example when Carvelust challenged Weems on his credentials and then oppossed anything Weems had to say just for his entertainment. Then took a slap at Bob Barnes who dropped in for a moment and got the same. The mods could have caught this as it was developing with Weems and it would have been over before it got momentum.
I know these are big boys and can handle themselves in a scrum but why should they have to if it can be avoided.
Shouldn't we consider some of these important coaches as the diamonds of this forum and important to it's well being?
I know that Weems will allow someone to counter his ideas and then he will reply and it is a civil exchange so i don't mean to not allow their opinions to be challenged because that is a healthy exchange of concepts/ideas

That was a troll attack and they are not that prevalent.The more common is the exchanges that sound like Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain on Saturday Night Live where he calls her names and insults as she tries to counterpoint. I am not saying this happens like this but when you challenge an established coach on his credibility he will take it the same as a personal attack because his/her professionalism is highly personal to him

I just think you have to nip the anger part at the bud and sooner the better to calm the thread and keep it moving in a constructive way

Just my ideas.I am here to learn all i can from these good people and the tech forums are the best places for it.
Thanks for listening
post #64 of 69
I think people like B Barnes and Weems can figure out pretty fast who the idiots are. I just hope they don't get discouraged by it and quit contributing
post #65 of 69
Is it really too much to delete undigified remarks and wild changes of topic?

Maybe the real problem is in the term "heavily moderated"?
post #66 of 69
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Originally Posted by Lucky
I think people like B Barnes and Weems can figure out pretty fast who the idiots are. I just hope they don't get discouraged by it and quit contributing
This has been my concern for some time...
post #67 of 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
Is it really too much to delete undigified remarks and wild changes of topic?
No, it's not. But, I think that we need to be clear that this is what we're going to do. Heated discussions are not unheard of around these parts, so we need to recognize that this may change the tenor of the conversations (I think for the better, but nonetheless, a change).
post #68 of 69
Thread Starter 
Would it be fair to designate a few "title headers" not too many and just let people know that these threads will be more closely watched. ie KISS, TECH, Teaching tips, etc..

Then using PM's and polite requests ask that members that start a tangent please start a new thread. Those undignified remarks would be requested to be removed or get edited by the mods.

In otherwords, More enforcement of the current rules and a little bit of gentle guidance without heavy handed moderation.

Just tossing out a few more ideas..

Since the Mod Squad has been in place the quality of conversation has gotten better.


DC
post #69 of 69
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Originally Posted by dchan
Would it be fair to designate a few "title headers" not too many and just let people know that these threads will be more closely watched. ie KISS, TECH, Teaching tips, etc..
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Since the Mod Squad has been in place the quality of conversation has gotten better.


DC
Yes and yes.
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