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Ski recommendation needed

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, I'm 42, a beginner/midlevel skier, 5'11", 180 lbs, in execellent shape, ski 80/20% groomed/off piste, 40/60% black/blue runs, 25-30 days per year on the snow. Right now I have '03/04 K2 3500's which are fine, but looking to move up a bit. I already have the bindings - Marker 1300 Piston Control.. (Plug - REI at $114) (like to put my stuff together myself) Din usually at 5 1/2 to 6.

I'm looking for something cheap - not going to spend $1000 for skis - but up to $450 is ok... ideally $250-350... I have lot of patience and will wait for prices to drop.. Also a ski that is 2-3 years old (but unused) is fine.

Any idea about what would be a good ski? Keep in mind I can't taste the difference in red and white wine - let alone tell flex patterns, stiffness, and whatnot of different brand skis. Just want something a little nicer for next winter.

Let me know if you need more info

thx

Dave
post #2 of 14
The preseason ski sales are great times to buy last years of the year or two before skis.
I like to go to the ski swap and ski patrol sales that occur in Sept. There are great deals to be had when so many have to have the latest and greatest and discard the old for the new. Better for the smarrt shoppers.
Check the reviews in the google search option after you get some ideas and you will get a feel of what is offerred and what is not suited for you.
I am sure you will get alot of suggestions. So take the time to sort them as they come in or find some models and inquire about them.

Good luck to ya Dave .
post #3 of 14
A couple questions, have you demoed any other skis? If so what have you liked, disliked, etc. Also, how do you like the way your K2's ski, how do you find your balance to be on them, good balance, feel too far forward, feel too far back, etc. Also, imagine back to when you're skiing and try to "feel" your feet in your boots, are you balanced on the balls of your feet, towards the heel of full footed? This can help in determining a ski because it often corresponds to ski flex point and where on the ski generates the turn.
post #4 of 14
Also, Where do you normally ski. Do you like long turns? Short turns? Hard snow? Soft snow?

Michael
post #5 of 14
Here are some choices from Ebay this morning. I think any of these would serve you well based on your weight, ability, and terrain preferences:

These come with bindings but based on your description of your skiing, they should work very well for you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-Volkl-SuperSport-4-Star-Skis-168-Motion-Bindings_W0QQitemZ8828016251QQihZ005QQcategoryZ263 50QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This one is a really fun, quick-turning ski:

http://cgi.ebay.com/05-06-Atomic-ST-11-M-ST11-Skis-170cm-NEW_W0QQitemZ8830689799QQihZ005QQcategoryZ21243QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This one is a good, all-around ski for someone in the ability level you've described:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-K2-Apache-X-167cm-Flat-skis-2005-All-Mountain_W0QQitemZ8828763288QQihZ005QQcategoryZ212 44QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

So are these (full disclaimer, I'm a Head rep - these are the ones I would pick if I were you ):

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-HEAD-MONSTER-iM-72-SKIS-170cm_W0QQitemZ8829503868QQihZ005QQcategoryZ62183Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Again this one has bindings. I haven't skied this Z5 but I've skied its more advanced brother (the Z9) and really liked it. Good price for a system:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rossignol-skis-Zenith-Z5-NEW-2006-models-170cm_W0QQitemZ8830046271QQihZ005QQcategoryZ21245Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
post #6 of 14
I would say something in the 120ish/mid 70ish/110ish for dimensions.

Since you have the bingind already, you will be limited to a "flat" ski. Volkl AC3 and K2 Recon are two that coem to mind. Maybe the upcoming Atomic Slim Daddy.
post #7 of 14
You can't use the markers on the atomics or the volkls that Bob recommended.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
You can't use the markers on the atomics or the volkls that Bob recommended.
Oops.

You're right about the Atomics, dd223. My bad. I forgot about the Atomic plate. All the more reason to buy the Heads.

The Volkls that are for sale include bindings, which I noted.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the links Bob - right now my local shops (Ski Pro in Phoenix) are having 30% off sale on al their 'hard goods'. I think I'll take the list and see what they have that matches the list... Was there today and their sale prices about match the Ebat 'buy it now' prices.

thx again

Dave
post #10 of 14
Check out the reviews at realskiers.com. They seem pretty good to me and they go back a couple of years.
post #11 of 14
For real estate: Location, location, location.

For Skis: demo, demo, demo.

IMO Consider what has been recommeded, but wait until you can demo.

My history: I went from a K2 Escape 4500 to a Metron 9. For me the M9 is a magic ski. But:I demoed an 06/07 M7 and made my decision based on the experience.

Don't fly blind.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Sounds good, but the only time during which to demo is winter, when the prices are back to normal.. Right now I can get most skis for 30-40% off average retail price..

fwiw I might be going with the K2 Apache X... about $300 local..

Dave
post #13 of 14
Only during the summer would you get such a response by so many prolific posters to such a common question. It's funny how things change over the course of a year.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by dwoof2
Sounds good, but the only time during which to demo is winter, when the prices are back to normal.. Right now I can get most skis for 30-40% off average retail price..

fwiw I might be going with the K2 Apache X... about $300 local..

Dave
True, but then you are taking chances on getting a ski that you won't like or missing out on getting a ski that you will love.

However, if you like the 3500 the Apache X is a good step up and a safe bet. Same basic shape, but a stiffer ski. I was planning to get the Apache X myself, but then I demoed the Metron.
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