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baseball's most overrated player(s)

post #1 of 19
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a sports illustrated poll of major league players - "who is the game's most overrated player?" - gave derek jeter the "win," pretty convincingly, with carlos beltran and alex rodriguez rounding out the top three.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/05/02/poll.0502/

by the way:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/salaries/top50
post #2 of 19
A-Rod may be the most overpaid, but he's a damn-fine ballplayer; too good to be considered overrated.

Beltran doesn't get much hype since coming to the Mets; it's as though he's overshadowed by New York, itself. Therefore I don't think he's overrated. A couple years ago they were touting him as one of the best, and I think most people know that isn't true.

Jeter is overrated for sure. Despite (or perhaps because of) his penchant for flashy plays, he's a marginal defender at best. He hits well, but not for power. He's not a clutch-hitter like many will tell you. His avg during late innings in close games is actually lower than his career average. Most overrated? Hmmm... I think it's gotta be him.


edit: convincing win? He got 9% vs 7% for Beltran.:
post #3 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerham
A-Rod may be the most overpaid, but he's a damn-fine ballplayer; too good to be considered overrated.
agreed.
post #4 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerham
edit: convincing win? He got 9% vs 7% for Beltran.:
would you accept "fairly decent margin"?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/mark_bechtel/05/19/bechtel.scorecard/index.html

i think it's his checks that help get jeter this "award," more so than because he doesn't have bigtime skills.

because we all know that johnny damon's the one that's "got no game."
post #5 of 19

supremely talented, but not "clutch"

Which explains how he beat out Ortiz for MVP, but choked when it counts:
http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees...el_sherman.htm
post #6 of 19
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It's hard...to be a saint...in the city.
post #7 of 19
I am not a big Jeter fan. He lost most of my respect when he sits on the bench when the rest of the club get into it. He should at least join in the fray with a few feigned swats at the air.

He just sits there with that "Mona Lisa" shiz eating grin ... drives me nuts. :

Still a .340 average is nothing to sneeze at.

A-Rod .... folds like a cheap suit when the pressure is on and the numbers bear that out.

A-Rod will pad the count when you are ahead by seven runs and make Volantaddict look like an hacker when it comes to running numbers.
post #8 of 19
ALL of them. The juice has skewed evaluation of this whole generation of players.

I finally stopped being a baseball fan this year. I'm done. Watching Bonds pi$$ all over the history of the game was just too much for me. It's not just him but it's the breaking point for me. Baseball lacks the will to do anything about this. The League, the MLBPA, the press, the fans...all are culpable. No one cares enough to fix it.

Beautiful game turned into the Island of Dr. Moreau.

Feh.
post #9 of 19
Say it ain't so Joe! Say it ain't so!

What year was that with Shoeless Joe Jackson?? :
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Yuki
Say it ain't so Joe! Say it ain't so!

What year was that with Shoeless Joe Jackson?? :
1919
post #11 of 19
Jeter is not over rated.
Marginal defensive players do not win gold gloves.
He is the best #2 hitter in baseball...and he is finally back where he belongs...
If he stays healthy..he has a shot at the batting title....
He is not a power hitter--it is not his game..

If you don't think he is clutch....you have been asleep for the last 10 years.....
post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shen
Jeter is not over rated.
Marginal defensive players do not win gold gloves.
He is the best #2 hitter in baseball...and he is finally back where he belongs...
If he stays healthy..he has a shot at the batting title....
He is not a power hitter--it is not his game..

If you don't think he is clutch....you have been asleep for the last 10 years.....
I tend to agree with this. My memory is that Jeter is always great when it matters, particularly in the playoffs.

Now A-rod, that's another story. The Curse of A-rod is upon ye
post #13 of 19
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J.D. Drew is the most overrated player in the game.

He is the one who, despite a couple of good though hardly exceptional years, has still to reach that amorphous thing they call potential. He's got the gorgeous swing, the speed, the "tools," but has not produced the way teams have hoped he would.

Not to say that he won't or can't, but....
post #14 of 19
for what they get paid, ALL OF THEM, right up there with soccer players for the award of overpaid babies....
post #15 of 19
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compensation for services rendered

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Originally Posted by waxman
for what they get paid, ALL OF THEM, right up there with soccer players for the award of overpaid babies....
what ARE they worth?

and how will you determine worth?

when arte moreno buys the angels for $180M and a few short years later that franchise is worth more than double that, he may deduce that the money he's paying his crybaby widgets is worth it.

but what does he know.
post #16 of 19
Got to agree with Ryan after living in St. Louis when Drew was there, he always was the next big thing, had a few good years but is probably never going to reach 1/2 the potential most people think or thought he has
post #17 of 19
Funny that Beltran is on this list seeing what he's doing this year. Last I looked, .300, 18 HRs, 52 RBIs, 12 SB's in 60 games isn't overrated to me.
post #18 of 19
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and arguably one of the best center-fielders in baseball.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by ryan
and arguably one of the best center-fielders in baseball.
Yep..no doubt....Delgado was all Beltran needed....he is a guy that thrives with a little help around him....This METS team is VERY VERY good.

A little more on Jeter:
-Rookie of the Year in '96
-Most hits in the Major League Baseball since '96...yep over 2000.
-100+runs scored 9 of last 10 seasons.
-World Series MVP
-Gold Glove winner
-Starting Short Stop for 6 World Series teams....4 Winners
-as of today: 332 Avg; 5HR; 43 RBI; 46 Runs scored; 13 Stolen Bases
-exemplifies the game of baseball with honor and class
-Will be a first ballot Hall of Fame inductee.
-overrated?
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