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post #61 of 85
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Originally Posted by tief schnee
If *you* can't, then *you* shouldn't. People often ask for a certain type instructor, male/female, young/old.......*you* may miss out on a great lesson though.
I don't think so.

That is the sort of reasoning that goes on when an instructor churns the crank. How is "the guy with the snake on his face" going to appease my fears? Simple, if he is any darn good at all, he'll notice my discomfort and take corrective action.

Any decent teacher would not blame ME for not being able to handle HIS life choices.
post #62 of 85
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Originally Posted by tief schnee
You can always ask, it might not get you anywhere, but you can ask.

At everyplace I have worked, several times a season I saw classes assigned to females or older instructors based on guests preferences. Of course on busy days, not so much.

So, you reckon that if I go to the desk and ask for the cutest female instructor, specifying that she must be single, and have a weakness for Irish accents, that the school is going to fulfill my request?

If so, which ski school???
post #63 of 85
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Originally Posted by BigE

I don't care if the guy with the snake on his face is as eloquent a teacher as I'll ever meet. That snake will give *me* the creeps, and *I* won't have a good lesson.

I don't have to *accept* the lifestyles of others. I merely have to *tolerate* them. That's what the law says.

And guess what? I have as much right to dislike such body art as the wearer has to put it on themselves. But no one has the right to tell me I am wrong for not liking that sort of art. Should I be shunned for not liking expressionism too? I guess expressionists could be disappointed.
just a question because my english is not so firm - as i understood there is a difference in *accepting* and *tolerating* something/someone. does that mean one can tolerate shouting and screaming kids in the neighbours garden but doesn't have to accept them in the own living room? so what happens if the guy with the snake tattoo is the one of the rescue team wich pulls you out of an ice crevice and reanimates you - is it to accept him or just to tolerate him as your life preserver?
post #64 of 85
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
So, you reckon that if I go to the desk and ask for the cutest female instructor, specifying that she must be single, and have a weakness for Irish accents, that the school is going to fulfill my request?

If so, which ski school???
austria - be there or be square!
http://www.skilehrerinnen.at/
post #65 of 85
skifex, I learned to ski in Saalbach.
post #66 of 85
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
skifex, I learned to ski in Saalbach.
with a female teacher?:
post #67 of 85
Yes!
post #68 of 85
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
Yes!
must have been resi

everybody loves her
post #69 of 85
Thread Starter 
I typed a long diatribe, but being that I a little inebriated, I will not post it. My question is simple now. Can you appreciate why I posed this question (especially since I have worked in this industry as long as I have and have tattoo's, hell, I almost co-owned a tattoo shop, but does that take away from my ability as a ski instructor)?
post #70 of 85
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Originally Posted by Manus
does that take away from my ability as a ski instructor
It may not take away from your internal ability, but it may take away from your ability to effectively get the message across. You may know your stuff, and be able to use the right words, but if something about you is distracting, then the student may not learn as well.
post #71 of 85
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Originally Posted by Manus
I typed a long diatribe, but being that I a little inebriated, I will not post it. My question is simple now. Can you appreciate why I posed this question (especially since I have worked in this industry as long as I have and have tattoo's, hell, I almost co-owned a tattoo shop, but does that take away from my ability as a ski instructor)?
no, if people only see piercings and tattoos instead of making an eye contact first to find out a bit who is the guy inside they could miss out a lot ... not only at skilessons
post #72 of 85
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I don't think so.
That you can voice your preference for instructor types when signing up or that that Lydia the Tattooed Lady can give a good lesson? Both are true.

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That is the sort of reasoning that goes on when an instructor churns the crank. How is "the guy with the snake on his face" going to appease my fears? Simple, if he is any darn good at all, he'll notice my discomfort and take corrective action.
You are 100% correct, any instructor worth their gummi stone would try to assuage your discomfort.

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Any decent teacher would not blame ME for not being able to handle HIS life choices.
No blame going on here, but this aint the pro room.
post #73 of 85
"We are a family oriented area, so no visible tatoos or body piercings are acceptable. We don't want to frighten the parents when they bring the kids for a lesson."

"When you have a kids class and you request adults to ride with a child, make sure they are not scary looking, no beards or wild attire!"



So, for all of you "Chester Molester" types out there, take note .... look like a n-o-r-m-a-l person and if you are going to offer the kids drugs or something ..... :

Oddly, our most "All American/Mom/Apple Pie/Old Glory" type was the biggest burn out in the ski school.
post #74 of 85
"He seemed like a nice, normal person.", the neighbors said as he was loaded into the squad car.
post #75 of 85
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Originally Posted by skifex
so what happens if the guy with the snake tattoo is the one of the rescue team wich pulls you out of an ice crevice and reanimates you - is it to accept him or just to tolerate him as your life preserver?
Although my happiness at being alive would monemtarily override any discomfort I would have, it is unlikely that we'd become life-long friends.
post #76 of 85
two can play at that game
a customer books a private ski day with me. as i meet him i realize that his face was massively groomed by a cosmetic surgeon, he wears a rug to hide his bald pate and he is penetrating me right away with his moshus after shave and some
backhanded compliments. so what should i see? an awful dandy wich i hardly can bear the whole day? or just the guy wich has problems to get on in years and give him a pleasent skiday, wich takes him back in the bloom of youth?
post #77 of 85
Ha! That is very funny!

A freind of mine is a psychiatrist. She overheard a conversation, where one person was complaining: "I had such a horrible day!" My freind asked the person, "Oh! Do you work with people?"

Teachers can't choose their students, but students can choose their teachers.
post #78 of 85
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Originally Posted by BigE
Teachers can't choose their students, but students can choose their teachers.
as a self employed coach and instructor i could, but within 30 years of working with clients i never rejected someone by personal reasons. for me one of the fascinations about teaching is to get to know what lies behind an exceptional appearence or habit. i am quite often faced with fear and stress wich is hidden behind a dashing manner or pompous behavior.
post #79 of 85
take a look at this clean cut guy. note a $100.00 tip for skiing with the girl on his "day off".

ummmm......i smell a little operation on the side.

i'm sure the family felt safe because he didn't have any piercings or tattoos. be sure to enlarge the photo and take a good look at chester the molester.

i bet after a bender he could take a nervous client out and ease any anxiety with those baby blues!

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20060613/NEWS/60613007
post #80 of 85
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
So, you reckon that if I go to the desk and ask for the cutest female instructor, specifying that she must be single, and have a weakness for Irish accents, that the school is going to fulfill my request?

If so, which ski school???
Fox,

It will work, but only if you look and sound like Sir Sean.
post #81 of 85
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Originally Posted by skifex
just a question because my english is not so firm - as i understood there is a difference in *accepting* and *tolerating* something/someone. does that mean one can tolerate shouting and screaming kids in the neighbours garden but doesn't have to accept them in the own living room? so what happens if the guy with the snake tattoo is the one of the rescue team wich pulls you out of an ice crevice and reanimates you - is it to accept him or just to tolerate him as your life preserver?
Very good understanding of the two words, skifex.

As far as the MEDIC with the snake tattoo. I don't care as long as he knows what he is doing and pulls my butt out of the fire. (You will tolerate a lot more when you are facing death eye to eye.)
post #82 of 85
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Fox,

It will work, but only if you look and sound like Sir Sean.

No thanks - he's Scottish. They can't even spell (or make) whiskey right!
post #83 of 85
Sorry about that Fox. I'm a mutt, Irish and Clan Cameron plus a little German and Brit thrown in. I don't know what part of me is responding to your input at times. Now you know why us Amuricans are all screwed up.
post #84 of 85
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Now you know why us Amuricans are all screwed up.
...and there was me thinking it was because you tried to make the world's largest cup of tea in Boston...
post #85 of 85
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Sorry about that Fox. I'm a mutt, Irish and Clan Cameron plus a little German and Brit thrown in. I don't know what part of me is responding to your input at times. Now you know why us Amuricans are all screwed up.

you think that's bad?

I'll match that with Welsh, Scottish, Shetland Island and Western Samoan! (That's the bits we KNOW about!) My cousins have the best range of skin colours in their family.... It is great fun to throw at those that are very retentive about "correct looking" (from an anglosaxon viewpoint usually)

I have ainga(samoan for family) that are Full blood samoan, Chinese and very germanic(samoa was a german colony) etc etc...

So we can usually pull a relative out of the hat that will shock somebody!

My adopted brother is almost certainly part aboriginal, my adopted sister is fair haired with blue eyes - just like my father! People who know we have 2 adopted and 2 other kids are totally unable to pick which 2 to pair together... why? they make assumptions as to what people SHOULD look like...or should do....
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