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post #31 of 48

Volkl vs. K2

Volkls are my favorite too, but K2 owns them, as well as over 1/2 of all the other products you'll see inside your favorite big box sporting goods store. So, I'm guessing the decision to switch to Volkl was Phil's, not the K2 guy's. Smart move, Phil. My money's on him for the '08 Nat'ls.

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post #32 of 48
PAS,

You forgot Fulltilt. I was unaware that they had SOS though.
post #33 of 48
I just heard this weekend that Phil switched to Head from someone who knows him well up here in his homeland!
post #34 of 48
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I just heard this weekend that Phil switched to Head from someone who knows him well up here in his homeland!
I saw the twins at the mountain earlier this month. Didn't notice what Phil was on but Steven was definitely on a pair of dark Heads.

Would be downright strange to see those two on different brands of skis

- Fossil
post #35 of 48
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I just heard this weekend that Phil switched to Head from someone who knows him well up here in his homeland!
I read that somewhere too, cant recall where though.

I got Head before Head was cool!
post #36 of 48
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I just heard this weekend that Phil switched to Head from someone who knows him well up here in his homeland!
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...re+head+s kis

post #37 of 48

Phil Wins one!

Taking charge of a J1-J2 JO Qualifier/FIS-ENL race, Phil crushed the junior competition, scoring one for the old guys!

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/610.ht...L&raceid=49647
post #38 of 48
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Originally Posted by ~cascades~ View Post
Taking charge of a J1-J2 JO Qualifier/FIS-ENL race, Phil crushed the junior competition, scoring one for the old guys!

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/610.ht...L&raceid=49647
And Michael Tichy, the (24 years younger) grown up who placed second, is the former Canadian National slalom champion, who regularly gets 30-point results in slalom and is pretty much always in the top 10 in the Nor-Am cup standings (in slalom). Pretty impressive results against strong competition.
post #39 of 48
That's great for Mr. Mahre as he maybe called by the more youthful competition. What he's doing at 50 is really something. I hope he keeps winning . Anybody know what kind of business Phil Mahre is involved in today? Does Steve Mahre still race.
post #40 of 48
He was at a Snow King race this past week in wyoming
post #41 of 48
Phil's current points are 54.62 GS and 71.61 SL.

This currently places him at 188 nationally and 1257 internationally in GS, and 283 nationally and 1885 internationally in SL.

Given the quotas at the US Nationals, unless he is given a special berth, he likely won't make it this winter. But starting earlier in the field next season and having had another season getting back into the game, I'd still say he has a decent shot at it!

But should he make it, what are his chances of anything near a podium? If he should finish in the top 20, that would be astounding!
post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post
That's great for Mr. Mahre as he maybe called by the more youthful competition. What he's doing at 50 is really something. I hope he keeps winning . Anybody know what kind of business Phil Mahre is involved in today? Does Steve Mahre still race?
Phil Mahre said at the beginning of the season that he was looking for an equipment sponsor specifically so that he could train full time, instead of having to work this year. I know in years past the Mahre brothers have run skiing clinics, and a year or two ago Steve had a NASTAR result for having run in some corporate event, where I assume Steve Mahre was part of the package the corporation had put together for their people coming out to Colorado. When Steve was asked, at the beginning of this year, about going back to racing like Phil was, he said something to the effect that he'd love to, but his knees wouldn't let him. (Been there, limped that...)

And thanks, VailSnoPro, for the analysis of Phil's progress. I don't know the qualifying criteria and quite how it works for skiing at the US Nationals. (Not, er, exactly relevant to my particular racing situation...) But a couple of the guys who finished at the tail end of last year's US Nationals GS results (Cory McConnell, Taylor Vest-Burton) were in the 45-70 GS points range in last year's final GS points list.
post #43 of 48
In any FIS race, there is a maximum number of racers allowed. When I was coaching, it was 140 per race/event. (Not sure if it has changed)

The National Team has automatic entry, filling about 10-15 slots on each of the mens and womens sides.

Then each Division of USSA has a quota of racers they can enter. Each divisions quota is different, but fills most of the slots.

Top NCAA skiers get their own quota.

Canada is offered X number of slots as well. Then any other foreign racers can apply for entry, and provided they meet the qualifying standard, can be entered.

The last few slots are Selections, made by a group of coaches.

It is not uncommon for there to be more racers than there are slots, and some not being allowed to race.

So- you can see that given these quota's, Phil's chances of making the points to enter National's is slim. If he should win or place very highly in a couple of low point/penalty races, he could do it, as they publish a new points list just before the National's break. But his rankings would have to improve by almost 100 to be guaranteed an entry.

Just think... the coaches of the US Team were Jr Racers when Phil and Steve won their medals!
post #44 of 48
On the most recent USSA point list valid Mar 1, point rankings for the Western Region reflect Phil 54th GS, 47th SL (42.97/41.85).

See post #22 of this thread - they'll select 13 guys from the West - of which 4 will be selected from Noram/Europa Cup. Then a dual board selection of all four disciplines (SL, GS, SG, DH) using WR Elite Series results and USSA points. That's 8 columns to pick across - to select nine guys -

Interested in more of how the selections are set up?

See "Regional Selection Board Method" at:

http://www.ussa.org/PublishingFolder...guidechap3.pdf
post #45 of 48
Some recent news about Phil's comeback attempt from my local paper. He's currently 36th in the West slalom standings.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/soundl...-5736287c.html
post #46 of 48
Are there any other racers with as many runs behind them who have had no knee surgeries? Granted Phil didn't do that many speed events, but my guess is that if you've competed at the top for 10 years your chance of having a serious knee injury is about 97%. Anyone know of stats?
post #47 of 48

Knee injuries among racers

I read a couple of years back that the number of torn ACLs among current World Cup alpine racers expressed as a ratio to the number of racers is greater than 1:1.

(That is, more of them have torn 2 ACLs than have torn no ACLs; each racer has, on average, slightly more than 1 torn ACL.)

Given that the ACL is merely one of many kinds of knee injuries (MCL, LCL, meniscus, other) and in addition to ligaments there are a bunch of fun tendon injuries as well (patellar tendinosis, anyone) its safe to say that almost all ski racers have had one (and probably more) knee injuries if they've raced a lot of days for a lot of years.

That said, speaking from experience, (1) the older you are, the longer it takes to heal, and the longer the pain seems to last, (2) Bode Miller is a phenomenal athelete, in phenomenal shape. If he's skiing hurt and functionally loses about 10-20% of leg strength in one leg because of injury (as he did one of the last two years--by the end of the season, one of his thighs was much smaller than the other one, and he was quite frank about it) he can still ski at a high level. For us older guys, losing some functional strength to injury really makes much more difference, because we don't have enough left, and (3) if your knee issues are irritation/overuse ones (tendinosis, etc.) you just have to pick your spots, and running enough gates to qualify for Nationals may not be in the cards for someone even as gifted an athelete as Phil's brother Steve.
post #48 of 48
No one has given odds yet.....

Does he make the team or not? I'll say 5:1 No.

Will politics become involved or not? Even odds. I dont know enough about how one makes the team or the politics invoved, even if they are....but with the current election and congressional debacle on banking...politics are everything.
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