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Atomic race skis 07

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
What's the deal with GS 12 not having a legal radius next year?

180 @ 19.0m
185 @ 19.5m

you have to get the FIS model to get 183 or 186 @ >21

http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...roduct_Count=0

Why sell the GS 12 at all? what the hell is the GS9 for now? 16m @ 180??
post #2 of 13
That has most always been the case. If you need a legal ski you shouldn't be on retail anyway.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
I've actually never been on atomic, but i could have sworn the gs11 used to be 21m?
post #4 of 13
I'm pretty sure that the older atomic 186s were >21 before... And as such usually 185 skis are around 24 ish
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by Proneax
I've actually never been on atomic, but i could have sworn the gs11 used to be 21m?
Yep.
I'll check tomorrow, sold 'em to my brother.
post #6 of 13

It's just like it always has been...

...you can get the GS 12 (just like the GS 11) in either FIS-legal or non-FIS legal sidecuts. Guess what most Men's Class 5 and above racers are using in Rocky Mountain Masters? That's right, the 19 meter sidecut, non-FIS legal version. Masters courses are getting turnier all the time, and we're not getting any younger. I don't think there's going to be as big a difference in the construction between the legal and non-legal GS12s, either. I raced a pair of 180 cm. GS12s (19-meter) at the GS Championships at Vail this year, which is a big hill and a full-length GS, and they did just fine...
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Proneax
What's the deal with GS 12 not having a legal radius next year?
both the 183 & 186 are legal (>21m) - what's the problem?
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Proneax
I've actually never been on atomic, but i could have sworn the gs11 used to be 21m?
my race stock 183s are 24m
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by mikey_10
both the 183 & 186 are legal (>21m) - what's the problem?
He is talking about the retail non-FIS ski.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
OK so I seem to have confused a couple of things.

Looking back I see that last year the GS:11 was just like this year: not fis legal at any length and sold at odd lengths like 166.

If memory serves me, two years ago (04/05) the normal retail gs:11 181 was >21m.

That explains a lot. I wondered why the fis and non-fis were marked similarly for flex, the only difference seemed to be the lack of beta channels or aerospeed on the fis skis. I didn't notice the radius change on the non-fis skis.

What's going to happen next year: non-fis GS:12 180cm radius 19m, FIS GS:12 183cm radius 27m ??? interesting

Now that I think about it, this seems like it could be a good move for atomic. In the past, the 'pared down' gs skis have been not only tigher-radius skis but softer, a combination that takes away stability in my experience.

I'd be interested to see how a tigheter radius but stiffer ski, like the GS:12 stacks up to a normal radius, but softer ski like the dynastar course comp in terms of stabilty and performance.
post #11 of 13
The retail Atomics in both GS and SL are completely different from their race stock versions. The regular Sl11 was 106/64/95 14.5m@165cm, the Sl 11 race stock was 114.5/64/101 12m@165cm. That isn't even close.
For 2007 the retail SL12 is 119/65/101. No word yet on what the race stock version will be, but it is unlikely to be the same. Atomic doesn't advertise the dimensions of their race stock version. You have to inspect them visually to find out.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Head first
The retail Atomics in both GS and SL are completely different from their race stock versions. The regular Sl11 was 106/64/95 14.5m@165cm, the Sl 11 race stock was 114.5/64/101 12m@165cm. That isn't even close.
For 03/04 and prior some Atomic race stock skis were quite similar to retail models. IIRC, there was 164 SL race version that was almost the same as retail with identical dimensions, but race department flex numbers. The retail GS:11 of the same year was >21m in all sizes and was a very suitable race ski. It was 04/05 when the SL11 and GS11 went to 14 and 19m respectively.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Proneax
What's going to happen next year: non-fis GS:12 180cm radius 19m, FIS GS:12 183cm radius 27m ??? interesting
those are the 07/08 rules though right? shouldnt they not take effect until fall of 2007?
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