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The Canyons 2007

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I have never been to Park City and have a chance to stay there cheap next year with a time share. What do you guys think bout The Canyons for a level 3-4 skier? I know I have asked a lot of questions but you guys are great with your knowledge of the areas. Thanks!!
post #2 of 22
THe Canyons certaintly has plenty for everybody, but watch out for the funky layout and being accosted by pushy timeshare sales persons. Oh, looks like they already got to you.

Powdr
post #3 of 22
IMHO you would like Deer Valley a lot more as a level 3 to 4. I know a lot of folks here don't like it, but it has a lot of groomed terrain and some steeper stuff. The Canyons doesn't groom too much. It caters more to the glade and steep powder crowds, but you could probably find some stuff in between. Park City resort I would consider somewhere in between.
post #4 of 22
As stated in my other post re Snowbird, The Canyons lacks true beginner terrain. However, if you're comfortable on Western US blue runs, there are plenty of those. Some people complain about The Canyons, but I like it. It's very wide and spread out, but lots of terrain to explore. Also, if you're an intermediate, it's pretty hard to get into trouble, unlike Snowbird.
post #5 of 22
I like the Canyons. Lots of long runs you should be able to do on the left side of the mountain. The best part about being in PC is that you can get to the other resorts fairly easily, so you're not stuck at the Canyons. In fact you should try the other resorts since you're there. At level 3 and 4, you should be saving for lessons for when you get there.
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by NYCHawkeye74
IMHO you would like Deer Valley a lot more as a level 3 to 4. I know a lot of folks here don't like it, but it has a lot of groomed terrain and some steeper stuff. The Canyons doesn't groom too much. It caters more to the glade and steep powder crowds, but you could probably find some stuff in between. Park City resort I would consider somewhere in between.
first off, NYC Hwkeye?
If you are a an Iowa Hawkeye that lives in NYC then we have to watch some Football and basketball together next season.
Whats the word....

anyhoo The Canyons is a big resort and as such has a lot of traversing around which is difficult for a low int or beg skier who doesnt know how to carry speed or skate.
Deer Valley has a great Couple runs for the lower int and higher beginner skiier.
Canyons lower mountain stuff, where the greens used to be when I was a beginner skiing Park west with the jr high school ski program, really get ignored to focus on the higher stuff.
my $.02

the best terraininUT for a level 3-4 skier can be found at Alta, Deer Valley and some what Brighton.
post #7 of 22
My .02...

The Canyons is a decent mountain for skiing once you get on it, but I agree with Powdr and matt_davis about the layout and the pushy sales people. First you've got to navigate the gondola from the parking lot, then fight through the sales people to get a lift ticket and get to the first lift. Then, on the way back, I believe you have to catch one lift to get back in from the main part of the mountain, then stand in line to catch the gondola back to the parking lot. And all the while you're standing in the gondola line the timeshare people are circling like sharks.

I prefer Park City MR and Deer Valley for right IN Park City. If you don't mind driving, Alta and Brighton are even better.
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by jdhawg
...The Canyons is a decent mountain for skiing once you get on it, but I agree with Powdr and matt_davis about the layout and the pushy sales people. First you've got to navigate the gondola from the parking lot, then fight through the sales people to get a lift ticket and get to the first lift. Then, on the way back, I believe you have to catch one lift to get back in from the main part of the mountain, then stand in line to catch the gondola back to the parking lot. And all the while you're standing in the gondola line the timeshare people are circling like sharks...
That's why in my opinion, It will never amount to anything more than an afterthought amoungst the PC area resorts. The entire place stinks of cheap mass marketing and snake oil salespeople. Seems like they are more interested in selling condos than improving the ski experience. In a way, I almost can't wait until ASC goes bankrupt (sooner than you think) and a quality organization picks it up.

Powdr
post #9 of 22

canyons

We've been going to the Park City area for 8 years. Have gone to the sales pitch at least 6 times. I have no problem exchanging 90 minutes at the end of the day for $100 or two free lift tickets or free tickets to another resort! Have done all of the above. The secret is to ask NO QUESTIONS at the end of the sales pitch.
I do think that DV has more skiing for 3-4 levels. I think Alta's green/blue areas are also quite good.
post #10 of 22
IMO The Canyons has the best skiing in the PC area.

1. The Canyons
2. PCMR
3. DV

Just get past the bottlenecks and you will really enjoy yourself.
post #11 of 22
How many more condos does The Canyons have to get rid of? Will they be doing this in perpetuity, or until ASC croaks?
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by jamesdeluxe
How many more condos does The Canyons have to get rid of? Will they be doing this in perpetuity, or until ASC croaks?
A lot. All that fresh dirt is now a sea of Conds:

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Powdr
A lot. All that fresh dirt is now a sea of Conds:

Looks like there is still A LOT of open space.

I'll take the Canyons with condos over ParkWest/Wolf Mountain.
post #14 of 22
Actually, just about all of that land you see is now developed. Golf course, more Condos, residences, even the land in Ranch Place & Silver Springs (top of the picture) is developed. If you like Sandy, then yes, that is fine. I don't. ASC plays a large roll in this. Mom & pop didn't. Since it's already been developed, at least they could be good managers of what they have. They aren't, because that doesn't make money. Even newer condos do.

Powdr
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by NYCHawkeye74
IMHO you would like Deer Valley a lot more as a level 3 to 4. I know a lot of folks here don't like it, but it has a lot of groomed terrain and some steeper stuff. The Canyons doesn't groom too much. It caters more to the glade and steep powder crowds, but you could probably find some stuff in between. Park City resort I would consider somewhere in between.
FYI: I'm not a Canyons apologist but I spend about 20-25 days a year skiing Utah and on average they groom about 60 runs a night- that is fact.
post #16 of 22
I go on 1 to 2 trips to Utah a year. Ski everywhere. I have a good time at the Canyons. Grooming seems similar to that at PCMR. There are the timeshare salespeople, but if you ignore them, it's not a problem. I've actually had a worse problem at Whistler with the time share people bugging you at lunch. Once again tho, I try not to give them an opening by not establishing eye contact. They view that as an invitation.At least at The Canyons, it's just on your way to and from the Gondola that they look for the invitation.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by Powdr
A lot. All that fresh dirt is now a sea of Conds:

This picture is quite a few years old. Not acurate anymore.
The Canyons, as one of the larger resorts, has both many pluses and minuses.
On the plus side: There are lots of steeps, the place takes several days to ski and if you're sking during the week, when the boarders don't overwhelm the place, there is plenty of nice groomed terrain.
On the minus side: It is very spread out and a bit tougher to navigate, the on mountain food, with the exception of Lookout cabin, sucks and they placed the terrain park in a horrible area thereby sacrificing what was alot of good ski terrain. The place can't decide if it wants to cater to the weekend snowboarders or families and for that, the the blame lies with ASC.

If your speding time in Park City go to all 3 resorts. They are only separted by about 5 miles with free shuttle service linking them all. All 3 resorts are better then the majority of what's out there.
post #18 of 22
James, Here is the deal with selling Crime share condos or is that time shares? The sellout happens in a rather short marketing period. However there are soon repo units and turn backs to sell. There is nothing like selling a high season week for $50,000 have someone put 20% down making a we payments plus the maintenance fees Then getting that same unit back because te payments were just to much. The Crime share people now foreclose and get to sell that week again. This time for $75,000 because "well we are sold out." This is the last high season week. Better get it now" Thats the pitch you get. The time share people have it down to a science. They know who the market is. They know how many people will say no and and how many will buy. The sales people get lessons on selling. I know there is a time share sales academy in Orlando. It is something like 6 week course in how to sell time share. At the end you can sucker a lot of people into buying that Lift time of wonderful vacations.
The time share industry counts on people dumping their weeks after a year or two. At this point the outside resale market sucks. So units go back to the original seller. The seller gets to resell those units to a new sucker.
post #19 of 22
Oh I forgot, Book your trip and enjoy the Canyons. You will find the skiing you like. Plus as others have said you can take a day at Deer Valley and PCMR. all are just a short free bus ride from each other. Enjoy Main St Park City. You may also even venture over to Alta it is about a 30 to 45 min drive from Park City well worth a day trip. .
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Utah49
Oh I forgot, Book your trip and enjoy the Canyons. You will find the skiing you like. Plus as others have said you can take a day at Deer Valley and PCMR. all are just a short free bus ride from each other. Enjoy Main St Park City. You may also even venture over to Alta it is about a 30 to 45 min drive from Park City well worth a day trip. .
Excellent advice. Canyons or no, Park City/Utah is a great place to spend a ski vacation. If you have no transportation, PCMR, DV and the Canyons are all accessible by free bus rides. Only 5 minutes apart from each other. Spend a day at each. Great day trips to Alta, Brighton, etc...
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by jdhawg
Excellent advice. Canyons or no, Park City/Utah is a great place to spend a ski vacation. If you have no transportation, PCMR, DV and the Canyons are all accessible by free bus rides. Only 5 minutes apart from each other. Spend a day at each. Great day trips to Alta, Brighton, etc...
I hope you pay heed to this (these) great replies.

In a nutshell, we could go to Utah forever and not think we're missing out; and Canyons is really, really nice for all abilities.

Buy those flights now while they last!
post #22 of 22
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Park City

Thanks for all the great info!!! It will be a good trip!!
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