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post #1 of 26
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Outdoor Life Network to become Versus.

As in "skiers versus bull-riding" where skiers lose.

Catch this quote:
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Originally Posted by OLN statement
"Versus is a word that perfectly captures the essence of our brand. It is immediate shorthand for competition and has a range that can suit everything from stick and ball sports, to bull riding, to field sports," network president Gavin Harvey said. "We felt it was a slam dunk, and sports fans we talked to all agreed."
Don't see anything about skiing at all, and considering how much coverage they dropped this last year, don't get your hopes up for next year's <vlad mode> weltcup </vlad mode> coverage.

Bah humbug.
post #2 of 26
I will gladly pay soem cash money for a separate skiing and cycling channel.. As in better weltcup, TDF and classics coverage..
post #3 of 26
Is skiing a "stick sport"? Only on Fischer Big Stix, perhaps.
post #4 of 26
Great man vs beast. So no man vs man on snow, on bicycles,vs the elements, what a sad day. now lacrosse and hockey and golf and big trucks and motos and snowmobile and mower racing.
If you don't carry a stick, like Martin said, or have an engine or involving abuse of animals then it ain't worth their time.Why didn't they buy TNN?
post #5 of 26
I think cycling can look forward to a home on the Discovery family of networks. It could be time to lobby for that and pound into them the degree of crossover between skiing and cycling fans and that they might be wise to bid on snow sports.
post #6 of 26
Maybe we should all encourage them
post #7 of 26
I guess since there is only around 5 million skiers in the country it's not enough of an audience. I know VERY few people who watch it.
post #8 of 26
How many bull riders?
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by jstraw
How many bull riders?
Gettin kinda personal there aren't ya J?:
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by jstraw
I think cycling can look forward to a home on the Discovery family of networks. It could be time to lobby for that and pound into them the degree of crossover between skiing and cycling fans and that they might be wise to bid on snow sports.
Well LA is gone .. OLN tried milked him so much that you couldnt trun on OLD without a mention of his name every 5 secs.. Disco got good mileage off it.. But Disco now needs a big American name to attach with.. There isnt any (i mean apart from Landis but he is already estranged form the USPS days)...
My guess, they stop sponsorship next year...
post #11 of 26
The bad news is that they have probably done lots of monitoring of the viewers and figured out that outside of the Olympics, few watch ski racing.97% of the people who ski couldn't pick the USST members out of a line up.Sad, but probably true. These bu$ine$$ types don't take crap shoots, they probably do tons of "market analysis". Heck, even when skiing was covered on the mainstream networks, it was on at 2 pm on Sunday ... and .... where are most of the skiers and racers on Sunday at 2 pm?
post #12 of 26
If only it were easy to get the Eurosport networks here in the States. They carry most of the World Cup Alpine events, as well as most of the major cycling events. However, because they're not "sanitized" for the "dumb" U.S. market, methinks that Eurosport will never be allowed the chance to flourish o'er here.
post #13 of 26
I would pay for a World Cup season pass, much like the MLB or NFL packages.
post #14 of 26
Yeah I'll second that plead for Eurosport but I'm not expecting it realistically to happen soon. It's sad that the American media conglomerates refuse to embrace the internet as an efficient distribution mechanism for the less popular sports like skiing.

If quality ski racing coverage were downloadable (think podcast format) their only costs would be the rights to the raw footage, production costs of editing/announcing, and bandwidth for downloads. With a few thousand loyal paying customers they could turn a profit no problem.

That works for the consumer since we can watch the racing more than once, whenever we want, in pieces etc. Clearly the number of people who tune in on Sunday afternoon and endure the ad saturation and sensationalism to catch a glimpse of 3 week old racing is too low to compete with other shows with more viewers. But it isn't due to a lack of a market. It is because OLN's coverage is as much of a turn off as it is enjoyable. They alienate more people than they attract.
post #15 of 26
I will third a cheer for Eurosport. Best sports network ever.

They showed all of the top 2 seeds. IIRC

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post #16 of 26
www.skipresstv.com has obtained the rights to web-cast the World Cup in 2006/07.

Don't know how this relates to any TV deal between FIS and OLN.
post #17 of 26

Altitude

I have some friends who work for the Outdoor Life Net and they can no longer call it Outdoor Life. It is OLN. Without giving away my affiliations I can say there is a regional sports network out West called Altitude sports and Entertainment. It basically carries the Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche. In the winter they show a bunch of ski pogramming like old Warren Miller's, Planet X, SO Gnar, SKITV. They are starved for programming. If any entrepreneur types were to want to produce a winter sports show this would be a good place to get it on.
post #18 of 26
Even when I had television, I never watched ski racing. OLN would play it on weekend days. I ski weekend days. I thought about TIVO, but I can't even justify the cost of a sat dish to watch the 1 or 2 hours each month I might watch it. I would guess there are a fair number of skiers who like myself, don't have either the time or, truly the interest in watching it. Let's face it, while ski racing is incredibly fun, it really isn't that great of a spectator sport.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by coug
Well LA is gone .. OLN tried milked him so much that you couldnt trun on OLD without a mention of his name every 5 secs.. Disco got good mileage off it.. But Disco now needs a big American name to attach with.. There isnt any (i mean apart from Landis but he is already estranged form the USPS days)...
My guess, they stop sponsorship next year...
I'm not so sure. They have actually increased their road cycling coverage from last year. Last year, after the TdF, they didn't show the Vuelta, and everyone thought they were going to drop everything now that Lance is gone. But this year they are promising coverage of all the grand tours, and are showing all of the classics as well as other races. they are also doing them via live web cast, but I don't care for watching skiing or biking on the computer unless I don't have a choice. I want to sit back on my sofa with a beer and yell at the tv. It also makes it hard for more than one person to watch, and my wife and daughter like to watch with me.
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by scaryfast
I have some friends who work for the Outdoor Life Net and they can no longer call it Outdoor Life. It is OLN. Without giving away my affiliations I can say there is a regional sports network out West called Altitude sports and Entertainment. It basically carries the Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche. In the winter they show a bunch of ski pogramming like old Warren Miller's, Planet X, SO Gnar, SKITV. They are starved for programming. If any entrepreneur types were to want to produce a winter sports show this would be a good place to get it on.
My Tivo picked up Altitude. Some good stuff on it. I think having a Tivo is one of the only ways to pick up skiing programs. They are so spread out and all over the time table.
post #21 of 26
I used to have one of the few homes in town with OLN....I had to get dish to get it. I would tape every world cup race and turn them over to the junior race program. It would sure be sad to lose that.
post #22 of 26
I have DISH. They don't have OLN anymore.
post #23 of 26
ski racing does not rate. OLN would replace it in a minute if they could find something half as cheap to produce that people would actually watch.
post #24 of 26
If you want to watch ski racing theres always

http://www.sport1.at/coremedia/gener...d=3235572.html
post #25 of 26
I spent some time inside Comcast last week where I heard about this change (Versus nee OLN is a Comcast network). Interestingly, sports are consolidating, with virtually all golf going to The Golf Channel, for instance. The NFL Network will carry 8 NFL games in one of the upcoming seasons (2007?). Versus will carry all hockey, if I remember right.

Actually, I think it's likely that there will be more skiing available as this all gets rung out, although perhaps not in the near-term. I expect more specialization on the various networks and more unification, so that if you want skiing, you'll only need to get one network to see it.

The lady I was talking with did expect Versus to carry skiing and cycling, FWIW.
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by sibhusky
I have DISH. They don't have OLN anymore.
I have to correct myself. IT'S BACK. Naturally after ski season is over! They were just advertising it last night.
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