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Finished filling my quiver

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Nothing too exciting, but I feel that I have two skis that can handle full range of conditions: turns, bumps, hardpack, crud, and powder:

K2 Axis X, 181 cm (new - Ebay), with Rossi P-10
Salomon 1080 Gun, 175 cm, (demo - Ebay), with Salomon 910 Ti

Still have these two in the closet:
Volkl Snow Ranger, 180 cm, with Look P-10 (tweener ski; can't seem to let these go and they only have something like 35 days on them)
Salomon X-Scream, 195 cm, with Look P-12 (now my rock ski)
post #2 of 18
Thy cup may runneth over, but thy quiver shall never be full.

post #3 of 18
Finished? What does that mean? : : : : : : :
post #4 of 18
Where's der uber fatty? : : : :
post #5 of 18

Or the hyper carver?

Not a quiver but a mid-waist palette.
post #6 of 18
"Finished filling my quiver" - given any reasonable definition of these words, is an inherently false statement, and, as such, can never be advanced by skier that is not, in fact, a raving lunatic.

There are, however, four possible modifying clauses that can return the statement to being non-contradictory. The first is somewhat obvious, and that is any sort of clause that indicates that the statement is, in fact, inherently false. An example of one such modification is, "it is impossible for me to ever be finished filling my quiver."

The other three acceptable modifications are all somewhat similar - they indicate certain constraints that make it possible for the statement to actually be true. These constraints fall into three catagories: economic, terrain limitations (often tied to economic constraints) and skill level. Examples of these limitations being put into use and actually creating a non self-contridactory phrase are:

"Due to economic reasons, I am finished filling my quiver."

"Given the terrain available to me for skiing, I am finished filling my quiver."

"Given the fact that I am a Level 3 skier, I am finished filling my quiver."

Now, while these statements are not patently false, they are still crude expressions that should not be used in polite company. In order to be used in polite company, they need yet one more modification. This modification is one that acknowledges the temporal nature of these modifying conditions. Phrases and words that can indicate the temporariness of the situtation, and thus make the entire sentence acceptable to actually say or write, are things like "current," "right now" or "until." So, the final transformation of our examples into phrases that actually make sense and can be said or written in polite company are as follows:

"Given my current economic situation, I have finished filling my quiver."

"Given the choices of terrain available to me right now, I have finished filling my quiver."

"Until I improve my ability beyond a level 3 skier, I have finished filling my quiver."

Each of these cases acknowledges not only the impossibility of ever permanently "filling the quiver," but also indicates that the statement's author recognizes that the conditions that make "filling the quiver" actually possible are, in fact, of a temporal nature, and that sooner or later (preferably sooner) these conditions that make it possible to be "finished filling the quiver" will cease to exist, and, at that point, the quiver will again revert to it's natural state: that of needing just one more pair of skis...

post #7 of 18
Once you fill a quiver you redefine it and throw the bums out and move up ,over and cover the spectrum better. If just have a few pairs of skiis is your plan than you have achieved it. ....A quiver to many here will span all types so you have something for whatever mother nature puts beneath you.Overlapping types of skiis gives you better range in what might work. all day , all over the places to ski. A mid fat that can carve. A carver than can go off piste. A powder ski that can handle the bottom of the mountain somewhat. Or you can superspecialize and get one of each and make the best of it when you are out of it's element. a race carver, a mid fat a twin tip fat. a wide body. So much to choose from why not cover each alternative and have some fun?
post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hmmm...I guess I put myself into the dunking tank and the tennis balls are flying. OK:

a) Given my current economic situation (new baby), I have decided to quit buying skis for a while after these last two. (I had demoed the Axis X a couple of years ago and fell in love in the bumps and with its versatility)

b) Many could argue that a level 9-10 skier only needs one or two skis! I have skied with some instructors at Snowbird and Alta that make sun-baked crud look easy on 66 mm waist skis. Sure, they might have 6 more pair in the garage, but they only NEED one ski for most conditions.

Incidentally, I am a level 8-9 skier and have indeed skied deep powder and crud on my 79 mm waisted Snow Ranger and had hella fun. Yes, an Atomic Sugar Daddy would make it easier, but not necessarily more fun. And, this latter ski is what I would buy for an uber fat, unless that category may now be considered 110-130 mm. I wouldn't know and don't really care, cuz that ski ain't coming through the woods with me like I want my powder ski to do, hence I bought a Pocket Rocket, oops, I mean 1080 Gun, which will do me fine for 95% of powder days out there.
post #9 of 18
you are right, what you have is what you have and that is your choice and many of us are limited. I am . I have to make good choices and balance my budget with that in mind i am going to purchase very carefully and get the most use i can get out of each , if i can't use them enough i won't invest i would rather demo a wide ski for deep powder and make do with a more all mountain ski the rest of the time.
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Anyway, as we all know, "It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools."
post #11 of 18
and congrats on the new addition to your family
post #12 of 18

Nice small quiver

I have essentially the same quiver:
K2 Crossfires (with Vist plate for added oomph and versatility)
Salomon PR's

Both these skis are so versatile between them they cover all conditions. For the BIG POW, an uberfatty could be nice. By the way, the Vist plates really are amazing: the crossfire carves like a banshee and handles chunky snow like a heavy midfat, just rock solid and super stable. I didn't like them in variable snow without the plate and now they just eat it up.
I say let's ski!
post #13 of 18
Billiam, how do you like your Axis X? I got the Apache X as the Axis X on Ebay was too long. I can't do bumps that well in an 181, I've got to go smaller, but I'm small and light as well. I still haven't mounted them yet and won't til closer to next year.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
Love the Axis X. My last day on them, we were doing high-speed cruisers and they were very confidence-inspiring. I use the 181 which is not too long at all for me (6'0" 178 lbs). There is another thread here on "favorite bump ski" and guess what ski is mentioned more than any other? Yes, the versatile Axis X is the #1 bump ski of Barking Bear skiers (not a scientific poll; margin of error is about 3.75%; accuracy within two standard deviations). Yup, the Axis X is my friend on ice, slush, bumps, and just about anything but deeper snow and crud. Got mine for $155 on Ebay a month ago. Nice price for a very good ski.
post #15 of 18
I remember the thread and the EBay bidding. I'm hoping the Apache X is similar, because I haven't found the Axis X in shorterr sizes.
post #16 of 18
What a difference a coast makes. Not counting the 20 pairs of skis in my basement that I'll never use, my quiver of everyday skis include...

-Atomic GS11 that I'm about to receive for the ones I bent, for those blue ice days when an edge is mandatory.
-Salomon race stock Equipe 3Vs, still with the factory edge, for when days when Atomics are getting tuned and an edge is mandatory.
Atomis SX10s, for all mountain cruising.
-Rossi B1s, for powder days, all mountain cruising and bumps, and the western ski trip without hiking.
-Olin Sierra's, mounted with Fritschis, for the Western trip or local day where hiking is expected.
-Olin Sierra's, mounted with Fritschis, for local hiking when cover is questionable.

Yup, nothing over 70 mm, but I can carve S turns down the hill in powder, chowder, Sierra Cement or crud with my measley 70 MM waited skis with minimum work, so I don't see a need for any fatter, and I LIKE the quickness.

I do plan on demoing the new Rossi B2, and if it's quicker than the old B2, I may replace the Olins with them.
post #17 of 18
Originally Posted by bumpdad
I remember the thread and the EBay bidding. I'm hoping the Apache X is similar, because I haven't found the Axis X in shorterr sizes.
It is!
post #18 of 18
Looks to me like your sill missing a ski for high speeds.
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