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Best equipment for JH??

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi all!
I`m planning to visit Jackson Hole next year, but i think it`s time to start preparing myself for this ski trip. So, here is my question: what do you think are the best skis/boots to ski this mountain. Please take into account that I want to ski mostly single/double diamonds there.
post #2 of 11
The Dynastar 8800 is probably the single most popular ski with locals at JH. I'd say the Rossi B4 is second and the Volkl Mantra is right up there.

Whatever boots fit you are what you should wear.

For me personally, the Head Super Shape will be my primary JH ski next year. The Head iM 88 will be my deeper-snow ski.
post #3 of 11
Bob are you sure your The new Head ski rep in Jackson? Or is it your too honest to really do your job correctly? With your attitude your never going to get anywhere with this ski thing
You should have said: "You will need a whole new quiver of at least 3 Head skis, 4 would be better. A Head im 82, an 88 and for powder the 103 or whatever is the widest ski Head makes next year. The fourth would be something for ripping the bumps. Of course Head boots
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by apeyros
Hi all!
I`m planning to visit Jackson Hole next year, but i think it`s time to start preparing myself for this ski trip.
Just went to JH and loved the demos I got from Hoback Sports. They were Volkl Karmas, however by next year you'll have updated gear.

The best advice I can give you for that mountain is, it doesn't matter so much WHAT SKIS you're on, but get yourself in the BEST SHAPE POSSIBLE before the trip!! I'm talking leg workouts, cardio, strength training, etc... you could be on top of the line stuff, but if you're out of shape, you won't be able to enjoy the mountain to the fullest extent, anyways. We did increased leg workouts for two months prior to JH, as well as a ton of cardio, and I was still dying trying to keep up with the locals on a tram run!
post #5 of 11
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Of course I gonna prepare my cardio and stamina

Thank you all guys! As I understand the ski`s waste should be between 89 and 100 mm?
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by apeyros
Of course I gonna prepare my cardio and stamina

Thank you all guys! As I understand the ski`s waste should be between 89 and 100 mm?
Depends. Don't overlook the fact that there are some great groomed runs at Jackson plus chances are high you'll encounter some hard snow if you stay there for a week or longer. Bob said the Dynastar 8800 is the most popular ski & I suspect one reason is they are decent on groomers and hard snow. The Head IM 88 with a 88mm waist and the Rossi B3 with a 83mm waist would be better suited for someone who's planning to ski it all at Jackson than some of the skis with 90+ mm waists because of their groomer & hard snow performance.
post #7 of 11
Rio, To some any ski less then 100mm underfoot should be concidered nothing but a gapers ski, unworthy of the excellent Jackson Hole terrain. Haven't you heard all skis 98-130mm are now excellent on groomed runs hard snow and in bumps?
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Utah49
Bob are you sure your The new Head ski rep in Jackson? Or is it your too honest to really do your job correctly? With your attitude your never going to get anywhere with this ski thing
You should have said: "You will need a whole new quiver of at least 3 Head skis, 4 would be better. A Head im 82, an 88 and for powder the 103 or whatever is the widest ski Head makes next year. The fourth would be something for ripping the bumps. Of course Head boots
Good point, u49.

Now that me and Bode are representing the same company, I'll need to get a lot more aggressive about pimping Heads.

apeyros, back to your original question, I agree a great deal with Rio's comments. I'm not really a big proponent of the wide-ski concept. IF you've skied powder very much and IF you ski at "normal" speeds most of the time (under 40mph or so), I don't know that a ski over 90mm underfoot is really necessary.

I still believe that when you go really wide you give up more in hard snow, bumps, and moderate crud performance than you gain in deep snow performance. I think that in a normal ski season of, say, 100 days at Jackson Hole, probably 40 of those days are going to be ones where it hasn't snowed for several days and there's no really deep snow to be had inbounds. On those days - and for ME - a ski with a narrower waist is just way more fun. The Heads (Super Shape) I'll be on next season have a 66mm waist and I think they're absolutely fantastic in all conditions up to and including 18" of powder. Deeper than that or in mushy, slushy, wind-slabby conditions I would go with a wider ski.

For me, there are so few days inbounds during the ski season that a 100mm+ ski is necessary that I just can't see owning a pair as a big priority. That's just me, of course, and we established a long time ago that I am very old-school.

Also, tacomaluv's suggestion is a really good one. If you're going to be skiing off the groomed runs here at JH, you're going to find this to be an exhausting mountain if you're not in shape. There are very long, relatively steep pitches that will have highly variable snow conditions. Those will beat you up if you're not physically strong.
post #9 of 11
Is pimping heads legal in Jackson? I'm sure here in Utah you would be in deep do-do for pimping Heads. Since I'm a semi gear Ho you can pimp as much as you want. by the way what kind of a deal can you get me on........... never mind I'm broke, soon to be homeless and living in tent.
post #10 of 11
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THank you very much! Yo, I go fitness myself!
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
The Heads (Super Shape) I'll be on next season have a 66mm waist and I think they're absolutely fantastic in all conditions up to and including 18" of powder. Deeper than that or in mushy, slushy, wind-slabby conditions I would go with a wider ski.
Hey Bob you got to be a damn good skier to spend so much time on a 66mm waist ski at JH and enjoy it. You don't typically see narrow skis at JH. My skis back east have a 68mm waist.

BTW sorry I didn't hook up with you you back in early Febuary. We were having so much fun that first day we kept skiing and went down late for lunch. I felt bad about not hooking up with you. Like they say their are no friends on powder days. If you want next year we can hook up and you can try my Volkl AC4s with 82mm waist and 16m turning radius. Just an awesome fun ski in all conditions. I know your a head rep and all but you got to try these skis. I promise I won't dis you like last year.

BTW I kick my self for not taking you up on your suggestion and hiring Doug Coombs for the day. It would have been nice to meet Doug. I said there will be next year. You don't know how many times I would replay in slow motion his shots in Warren Miller videos trying to learn from him. He was so smoooth.
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