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post #121 of 185
If zee Frenchman (who is actually of Irish stock) .... feels zee need for zee skeez! (original family name was Kelly)

I still have my Head Killy 203 SL's (zee rouge ones) out in zee garage.

post #122 of 185
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Originally Posted by newfydog
Viking Kaj mentioning Killy got me thinking…..Just after retirement, Jean Claude took a sponsorship from Head, and they produced their first ski which was neither black nor all metal, the Killy 800. They ran some TV commercials……slow mo of Killy skiing powder, commentary in French, with subtitles

“When I ski, I think of many things, a beautiful woman, a fine bottle of wine…I do not have to think about my feet, as my legs react instinctively to the snow. And I do not have to think about my skis, because they are Head Skis.” (I did not make this up!!!)

I suddenly thought, “of course, the perfect ski for Bode, he can think about booze and woman while skiing!”

I had to talk to Jean Claude about this. Fortunately Vlad had his cell phone number in his speed dial.

“JC, I asked, “Is it true you can just think about wine and women if your’re on Head skis?” “Oh yes”, he replied, “but now that I snowboard, I don’t have to think at all”.

“But do you think they can make a ski for Bode?”, I inquired, “After all, he parties on a world class level.”

“Well”, said the great Frenchman, “they came by my chateau last week and asked to borrow the very pair of Killy 800’s I used to beat Pepi Stiegler in the TV show The Killy Challenge. They said I could have them back in about four years. Muttered something about they were going to cut them down to 165cm.”
Beautiful!
post #123 of 185
a colleague from another company showed me a bode miller spoof/prank song sung to an old "blondie" song iirc "call me" yeterday it was quite well done and if someone has the link i would appreciate....
post #124 of 185
Just saw a small blurb inthe newest Ski Racing

Barilla is not renewing Bode's contract.

What a surprise!
post #125 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
Just saw a small blurb inthe newest Ski Racing

Barilla is not renewing Bode's contract.

What a surprise!
Is it fun to delight in another's perceived misfortune?
post #126 of 185
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
Is it fun to delight in another's perceived misfortune?
Bob, you have it all wrong, misfortune is something bad that happens to someone that is out of their control!

Like:including but not limited to:

Born with birth defects
Getting t-boned by a car that ran a red light.
coming down with Lung cancer having never smoked

You get my drift.

Bode does not qualify for ANY SYMPATHY LIKE unfortunate folks who endure these kind of 'MISFORTUNES' that are beyond their control.

People who do stupid things and expect no negative ramifications due to their impulsive ill conceived and ill advised actions are termed "IMMATURE"

Quite a difference in my book!

Apparantly you are form the no responsibility for my postion in life camp.

bode is hardly a victim of circumstance other then the one he created.
post #127 of 185

slight bias?

OOOh, me thinks that someone has their nose out of joint over the switch from Atomic to Head. Doesn't every guy want some Head? (Oops, I think I meant that pun)

We normal human beings have absolutely no idea of the pressures, political, human, financial, sociological, physical that this guy endures.

The media in this country loves to create/deconstruct heroes. He's just a relatively young guy on the fast track, from an unusual upbringing finding his way. Who of us who remember their 20's wants to say they were perfect, formed adults!!!

I am soon to be 50, and went thru H.S. and college in the 70's. I HAD FUN!!! Do I want my kids to do what I did? No f--king way. Will they? One already has, gone thru it, now in grad school, etc. One to go.

Give the guy a break! He's partied, made some stupid comments, some poor decisions.
Let he who is without imperfection cast the first stone.
post #128 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman

Bode does not qualify for ANY SYMPATHY

....
The Five Stages of Grief:

* shock/denial
* inward anger
* outward anger
* depression
* acceptance

It seems like you might still be in the "outward anger" phase.

With time, it'll all be okay.

Bode's great betrayal of the American people will fade into distant memory.
post #129 of 185
For the record, Barilla has never, ever, renewed a contract with one of its sponsored athletes. If you remember Barilla sponsored Tomba and never renewed his contract after four years either.
Read into it whatever you want, the company looks for a new athlete every four years.
My opinion, watch out for Bode in 2007.
post #130 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by LCS
OOOh, me thinks that someone has their nose out of joint over the switch from Atomic to Head. Doesn't every guy want some Head? (Oops, I think I meant that pun)

We normal human beings have absolutely no idea of the pressures, political, human, financial, sociological, physical that this guy endures.

The media in this country loves to create/deconstruct heroes. He's just a relatively young guy on the fast track, from an unusual upbringing finding his way. Who of us who remember their 20's wants to say they were perfect, formed adults!!!

I am soon to be 50, and went thru H.S. and college in the 70's. I HAD FUN!!! Do I want my kids to do what I did? No f--king way. Will they? One already has, gone thru it, now in grad school, etc. One to go.

Give the guy a break! He's partied, made some stupid comments, some poor decisions.
Let he who is without imperfection cast the first stone.
I could care less what the Bode skis on!
post #131 of 185

splitting hairs?

Call or care?

he was everyones ideal a few years ago based on media perception. the same media which focuses on Britney, Brangelina etc. ad nauseum. Spin, spin to make headlines. Everything you read needs to be read with a grain of kosher salt. ( you know, the really big grains?)

3-5 months prios to olympics, he gets branded for some stupid comments. You don't think the europeans are having wine and beer with lunch and dinner? Not all, but MANY!
My point, we don't know the real story, just the media spin. Give the guy a small break. No need to be nasty, nasty.
That's all.
post #132 of 185
Atomicman. I'm not ambitious enough to crawl through your post history to figure this out. Did you ever like Bode? Were you upset with his attitude for the last few years (it hasn't changed much)? Were you upset with his lackluster results (relative to 2005) all of tnhis seaso? Or was it just when the army of hack sports journalists started roasting him (It wasn't the only thing they botched) during the olympics this year?

I'm genuinely curious. ALthough I feel completely different, I understand why his attitude, when put under intense media scrutiny, at the olympics upset a lot of people. But your posts are pretty charged and I (and apparantly most others) can't piece together exactly where you are coming from. For those of us who don't quite understand the origin of your dislike for Bode, could you just fill us in?
post #133 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Peters
The Five Stages of Grief:

* shock/denial
* inward anger
* outward anger
* depression
* acceptance

It seems like you might still be in the "outward anger" phase.

With time, it'll all be okay.

Bode's great betrayal of the American people will fade into distant memory.
I am not angry! You must be. you are they one who came up with the negative comment. I am just amazed you could call Bode having reprecussions due to his erratic behavior, a misfortune!

By the way I experienced all your phases simultaneously when i read your post except, acceptance!
post #134 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnstormer
Atomicman. I'm not ambitious enough to crawl through your post history to figure this out. Did you ever like Bode? Were you upset with his attitude for the last few years (it hasn't changed much)? Were you upset with his lackluster results (relative to 2005) all of tnhis seaso? Or was it just when the army of hack sports journalists started roasting him (It wasn't the only thing they botched) during the olympics this year?

I'm genuinely curious. ALthough I feel completely different, I understand why his attitude, when put under intense media scrutiny, at the olympics upset a lot of people. But your posts are pretty charged and I (and apparantly most others) can't piece together exactly where you are coming from. For those of us who don't quite understand the origin of your dislike for Bode, could you just fill us in?
Bode needed no help. he roasted himself. And apparantly you are still in Bob Peters Phase #1 Shock/Denial.
post #135 of 185
Wow You guys are really sensitive! Maybe you have the issues here.

Afterall, All i said was Barilla didn't renew his contract. What a surprise.

Does that sound angry?

I didn't call him a MF'er or anything, or hammer him about anything else?

i did comment on Peters' ridiculous comment that I am happy about Bode's misfortune.

I just can't classify his troubles as misfortune. How about misbehavior or missteps?

You guys are in denial. I guess you feel your hero has fallen from his pedestal and seem really defensive about, WOW!
post #136 of 185
Jeez you guys are harsh, God forbid you might have a national skier who can win from SL to DH (no idea what those mean). Herman is like sweet but even he doesn't have the range.
post #137 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by LCS
OOOh, me thinks that someone has their nose out of joint over the switch from Atomic to Head. Doesn't every guy want some Head? (Oops, I think I meant that pun)

We normal human beings have absolutely no idea of the pressures, political, human, financial, sociological, physical that this guy endures.

The media in this country loves to create/deconstruct heroes. He's just a relatively young guy on the fast track, from an unusual upbringing finding his way. Who of us who remember their 20's wants to say they were perfect, formed adults!!!

I am soon to be 50, and went thru H.S. and college in the 70's. I HAD FUN!!! Do I want my kids to do what I did? No f--king way. Will they? One already has, gone thru it, now in grad school, etc. One to go.

Give the guy a break! He's partied, made some stupid comments, some poor decisions.
Let he who is without imperfection cast the first stone.
Yes poor guy so much pressure so much reponsibility, I feel for him just like I feel for Steven Speilberg, Donald Trump, major league baseball players and for Bill Gates, those poor guys have so much pressure I wonder how they sleep. What they would give to be the average american making $30k/yr no health insurance and living pay check to pay check...give me a bloody break...reep what you sow.
post #138 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
I could care less what the Bode skis on!
Thus your 19 posts in a thread about what skis Bode skis on.

Not all athletes can be the dumb, dull, conformist Austrians you prefer.
post #139 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir
Thus your 19 posts in a thread about what skis Bode skis on.

Not all athletes can be the dumb, dull, conformist Austrians you prefer.
Ok I lied, but i already have next year's , that's right 2007 Head i.SL WC RD. Saudan, put your money where your mouth is!!!!

Opps, I din't lie, I bought them before the Head deal was announced!!!!

I reapeat i could care less what Bode is skiing on,

so show me this thread that i cared what Bode was skiing on with 19 posts!!!!

Oh yeah, I'm not angry either!
post #140 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by XJguy
Yes poor guy so much pressure so much reponsibility, I feel for him just like I feel for Steven Speilberg, Donald Trump, major league baseball players and for Bill Gates, those poor guys have so much pressure I wonder how they sleep. What they would give to be the average american making $30k/yr no health insurance and living pay check to pay check...give me a bloody break...reep what you sow.
RIGHT ON, DAWG!
post #141 of 185
I hope Bode has a great year.

I think having a great year would involve cleaning up his act.

I know the basis of my disillusionment with him is what I interpret as his cavalier attitude about competition.

I believe his avowed measure of success, that he did his best, is a valid measurement.

I expect that when he skis his best, he'll be exciting to watch and win often.

I scoff at the notion that he skied his best last year, especially in Torino, on the basis of his own statements.

I reject the idea that one ever has earned the right to treat a spot on the team as a license to put a jet-set, partying lifestyle ahead of treating that responibility with honor.

I hope Bode has a great year.
post #142 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
I hope Bode has a great year.

I think having a great year would involve cleaning up his act.

I know the basis of my disillusionment with him is what I interpret as his cavalier attitude about competition.

I believe his avowed measure of success, that he did his best, is a valid measurement.

I expect that when he skis his best, he'll be exciting to watch and win often.

I scoff at the notion that he skied his best last year, especially in Torino, on the basis of his own statements.

I reject the idea that one ever has earned the right to treat a spot on the team as a license to put a jet-set, partying lifestyle ahead of treating that responibility with honor.

I hope Bode has a great year.
jstraw, listen up dude! One of the best posts i have seen on the subject!
post #143 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir
Not all athletes can be the dumb, dull, conformist Austrians you prefer.
dumb, dull, conformist?! : :

do i detect some bitterness?
i can see how dull it is that they mostly win.. they should stop conforming and lose for a change! stop training like dumbasses and make the news for excessive partying instead of good skiing!

maybe the next great American should ski in a nice pair of tiger-print thongs.. i mean, how dull and conformist to wear a spydersuit like everyone else!

that was a stupid, stupid.. stupid comment. hang your head in shame.

jinx
post #144 of 185
jstraw,

word.

well said.



I suspect Bode Miller has given the events of the past several months some thought.
post #145 of 185
Another possibility of why he switched to Head.....In the movie "Downhill Racer", Robert Redford skied on Heads. He was loyal to the brand, but Machet, a ski manufacturer, sent a hot babe with poofed up hair and a hot car to try to get him to switch skis. He didn't change skis, but nonetheless, our hero got both the babe and the gold medal.

A scenario Bode the Babehound would find hard to resist!
post #146 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstraw
I hope Bode has a great year.
Good thoughts. Though it does sound like the Nicene Creed. I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
post #147 of 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by katabch
For the record, Barilla has never, ever, renewed a contract with one of its sponsored athletes. If you remember Barilla sponsored Tomba and never renewed his contract after four years either.
There's actually an earlier thread on the Barilla thing:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=40085

On what may be a purely factual note:

- Barilla's sponsorship of Bode lasted for about three years, not four. It was announced in the fall of 2003, and that's the season Bode started wearing a Barilla helmet. According to their announcement, it had a three-year term, but they had an extension option, which they failed to exercise.

- Their announcement also said they "generally" limit endorsement deals to three years. It also says their deal with Tomba was three years.

- Barilla's own website says they sponsored Tomba for five years (1992 to 1997), though their other sports deals do look like they're generally three years or less:
http://www.barillagroup.com/news/48631_awContent.htm
post #148 of 185
Nice to see some sanity on the subject, SJ,XJ,& jinx!
post #149 of 185
Thread Starter 
Well first off all in Austria we have a saying " Um a Skirennfahrer zu soan musst deppert sein - sonst tust dir des Training net an" - To be a ski racer you have to be somehow stupid - otherwise you would never train so hard (methods like in the east-block in ski schools).

Therefore we in Austria love Bode Miller! He is not so conformist and more popular than most of our own skiers.

I wish Bode a good start with Head - Johann Grugger showed that their DH skis are of superb quality.
post #150 of 185
extremecarver, I've got nothing against miller, actually he's one of my favorites; so was 'tomba la bomba' . but i admire the austrians as skiers, because they make the news for their results and not their life off-piste. that's what it's all about in the end when it comes to 'Schifoan' as a sport

offtopic: I learned to ski in an east-block ski school... the pace was murder. dry land trainig started in september, 2-3 hours, 3-4 days a week. then in winter, in the mountains: morning warm-up at 7, skiing 8 hours a day, some discussion and occasional 'endurance' (punishment usually ) in the afternoons... and this about 4-6 weeks every season. oh yeah, no parents allowed in the lodge where we stayed.. i was 4 and i missed my mommy (quit when i was 11, I moved to canada and the racing here was murder on the wallet).
all in all, eastern black ski schools were run like boot camps, but not lacking benefits.

go bode!

jinx
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