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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
The price is something of great interest to us, so if you don't want to give us a ballpark from your memory we'll wait.
Ok, here you go:

Camp prices:
http://www.harbskisystems.com/events.htm

Private instruction prices (note that you can also do private groups which is handy):
http://www.harbskisystems.com/skiwus.htm

I think you can also do half day for the privates but I don't recall the cost. The alignment costs are covered in the above link as well.
post #32 of 44
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Originally Posted by Max_501
Ok, here you go:

Camp prices:
http://www.harbskisystems.com/events.htm

Private instruction prices (note that you can also do private groups which is handy):
http://www.harbskisystems.com/skiwus.htm

I think you can also do half day for the privates but I don't recall the cost. The alignment costs are covered in the above link as well.
Thanks, Max.

That helps a lot.

Did you do one of the camps or the private sessions with Harald?

If you did a camp, was it an instructor camp or the all-mountain camp?

The prices (especially for the all-mountain camps) seem very reasonable. Compared to what my ski school charges for an all-day private, Harald's pricing seems well within the ballpark.

Can you talk about the "standard" routine of a day?

Did you do a lot of general skiing with a little bit of analysis/drills/exercises or did you do quite a lot of drills?

When they did video analysis of you, did they also do video of Harald at the same time so you could compare his movements to yours?

Did you have much input into the kind of turn or terrain you wanted to improve or was the course of action more or less determined by Harald watching you ski and deciding what you need to work on?

I'm very intrigued.
post #33 of 44
Bob,

I went to a Blue/Dark Blue Camp the end of November 2004 at Copper. It was $100/day ($500 total). I believe tickets were included in the price. We had to pay for our own lodging. For me it was $125/night.

The daily schedule was meet about 8 AM. First day, first run was done to split the group of 12 into two groups of 6. Harald took one group, Diana took the other. (Mine) We skiied all morning working on various skills and drills. At the end of the morning they would video tape our skiing.

We would break for lunch then after lunch we would go over the videos.

Those people getting boot work done would have that work tweaked in the afternoon.

This was the general format for each day.

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday were with our first instructor. Then Harald and Diana switched groups for Thursday and Friday.

We had a couple of "official" evening get togethers. Other times we would just happen to meet up for dinner. Harald and crew stayed at Copper.

It was a great session. I enjoyed the whole thing.

At no time were we served Koolaid.
post #34 of 44
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Originally Posted by MilesB
It's all ABOUT instruction, the same as the thread I linked to. It is NOT what most people would view as a trip report. In fact there is a sticky thread in the instructional section inviting people to make posts that are about their instruction experience, exactly like what Max did. Only it's about the ESA. I understand that a moderator might not want another heated thread, and might want to not have prospective customers read a glowing review of what he/she sees as competition, but I still think it was a lame way to go about it. Make a rule about no threads "promoting" PMTS if that's what's desired. And live with any negative feedback that causes. Harb does.
Lonnie, the link is not there. Had it not been linked to in a different thread, I wouldn't have known about it.
MilesB, I disagree. There is one paragraph of Max's post that says anything about technique or instruction, and it is simply a series of words describing what they worked on. I do not see how it describes technique or instruction.

The sticky for the ESA specifically asks for breakthroughs and insights, so fits there.

The thread thanking Lonnie was a follow-up to a request made in that forum, was very short, and quickly faded from view so I saw no reason to move it.
post #35 of 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max_501
Ok, here you go:

Camp prices:
http://www.harbskisystems.com/events.htm

Private instruction prices (note that you can also do private groups which is handy):
http://www.harbskisystems.com/skiwus.htm

I think you can also do half day for the privates but I don't recall the cost. The alignment costs are covered in the above link as well.
These prices don't seem all that high for someone who seeks what HH has to offer, however I wouldn't pay that much for what HHH has to offer.

post #36 of 44
This may be of interest to Carv lust...
http://realskiers.com/pmtsforum/viewtopic.php?t=613&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start =5

Take a look at the third post in particular.
post #37 of 44
Thread Starter 
SSH explained to me why the post was moved and I think he has a point. The post was light on technical content and fluffy on the experience side. I have copius notes from my coaching so I will try to find the time to go through and organize them to create a post that focuses on the technical aspects of coaching from Harald Harb. I've had enough requests for this via PM that I suspect many would like to see what a few days with HH is from a technical point of view.
post #38 of 44
Max, I'd like to hear your thoughts too. Thanks for this thread, and I'm glad to hear you had a good time.
post #39 of 44
Max, I was really impressed by the pictures HH posted of you. It would be intriguing to know how you skied before the HH camp, were you on the brink of skiing like that, and if not, what got you there, the process of it would be interesting.

And post that in the instructions forum. I know you are enthused by HH but mentioning his camp in the introduction of your post should suffice, I (we) are mostly interested in the process, not so much to who taught it, though credit to HH and his lessons should be given.

....Ott
post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by volantaddict
These prices don't seem all that high for someone who seeks what HH has to offer, however I wouldn't pay that much for what HHH has to offer.

There's no way I could afford that.
post #41 of 44
Wonderful day of skiing Max. Thanks for some very helpful pointers, it worked for me. Looking forward to making turns with you again soon. I see a HH camp @ T-line next month.
post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by slider
Wonderful day of skiing Max. Thanks for some very helpful pointers, it worked for me. Looking forward to making turns with you again soon. I see a HH camp @ T-line next month.
It really was a great day of skiing. And you are quite welcome for the pointers. Really just fine tuning. Not many people can lay trenches like you do.
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by Max_501
It really was a great day of skiing. .
Hey! Quit rubbing it in that your lifts are still open!
post #44 of 44
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newfydog
Hey! Quit rubbing it in that your lifts are still open!
Hey, did I mention we'll be up there tomorrow if you want to join us? And today was terrific too!
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