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Rossignol Bandit B1 vs. Fischer RX6

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hi All-

I'm currently looking to purchase my first set of skis. I have been skiing for quite a number of years now and finally have the money to make the investment. I'm trying to decide between these two skis of course i'm alway open to other suggestions so any opinions either way are welcome.

I'm 5'6" about 130 lbs (and rising)...I consider myself to be an advanced skier

I ski about 1/2 black and blue in Utah and west coast (sometimes the levels seem to vary from resort to resort blues are not always blues)

Every time i go i'm getting better in the bumps so I'd like a ski that i can ski everything in.

thanks in advance
post #2 of 18
Not being really a super expert i would anyway give you a piece of advice.
Taking into account your ski ability and the areas where you usually ski i`d recommend you higher models of the aforementioned lines, i.e. Rossignol Bandit B2 if you like to ski powder/bumps or Fischer RX8 FTi(which I consider the best allmountain carver) if your preferences lean more towards allmountain carving/bumps, the choice is up to you.
Speaking about Fischer RX6 and Bandit B1 i`d say these skis are a kind of compromise when compared to RX8, B2 and they don`t guarantee you such techical improvement and safety on high speed in difficult situations.

And one more advice concerning the length of the skis. It should be at least 5`4`` for you if you want to have high performance at the big mountains

Have Fun!
post #3 of 18
I second the B2. It is a very versital yet forgiving ski, ideal for skiing out west. It will allow you to start skiing a greater range of snow conditions.
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
thanks for the advice guys

of the two which would you guys pick??

...i'm trying to decide between those two because i'm looking at buying some demos since they're in my price range, i don't think they had any b2s or i'd be there. thanks again.
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by apeyros
Not being really a super expert i would anyway give you a piece of advice.
Taking into account your ski ability and the areas where you usually ski i`d recommend you higher models of the aforementioned lines, i.e. Rossignol Bandit B2 if you like to ski powder/bumps And one more advice concerning the length of the skis. It should be at least 5`4`` for you if you want to have high performance at the big mountains

Have Fun!
The Rossi B1 is not a lower level ski. If you're going for bumps, the B1 is your better bet as it's a lot quicker edge to edge than the B2. Although it's not the best pick, they're not horrible in powder either.
post #6 of 18
I thought the B2 was better than the B1 for most of the Mt. If you are only into the bumps, the B1 would be better. I demoed the 2004/2005 B1 and liked it very much on hard pack/bumps at Steamboat- no new snow in over two weeks at that time. I have demoed both the 2004/2005 and 2005/2006 B2 and like the 2005/2006 better. It does fine in the bumps and is better powder and crud than the B1. If you want last years model of the B1 (2004/2005) check out this site where you can get a package for $434 (skis, S810 Ti Axe bindings and poles). I have only found this site recently and have not bought from nor communicated with these people. http://www.aspenskiandboard.com
look under packages for 2004/2005 skis.
post #7 of 18
Of the 2 you mentioned I'd go with the Rx6. It doesn't get enough respect in these forums. It has 80% of the performance of the Rx8 and is a lot easier in bumps.
post #8 of 18
Well i agree that RX6 isn`t that bad, but i want to say that when bumps are fluffy(not icy) it doesn`t get better than ripping them on RX8, you`ll have a blast.-----------> that`s IMHO.
post #9 of 18
I'd agree about the B-2 as the ultimate Swiss Army Knife - does everything you want well, although nothing superlatively. Disagree about the RX's - I own a pair of 8's for the east. Yep, they're good in bumps and superb for carving railroad tracks, but they don't thrive in crud and chop, and waay too narrow for real western pow. Not versatile enough for your only ski out there.

If you like the Fischer feel, though, think about a AMC 76 or 79. Very nice in bumps, good float, not as damp or forgiving, but more energy and edge than the B-2, better on hardpack. No change for 06, so this year's should get reasonable soon. Sierra Jim, among others here, thinks very highly of them. Ski them fairly short - I use a 170 at 6', 167 lbs. - and enjoy the pop out of each turn.
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
thanks for all the replies guys...

yeah my real concern is that the fischer rx6 has a narrow waste compared to the B1 which probably woulnd't be the best in western powder
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by leej009
thanks for all the replies guys...
the B1 which probably woulnd't be the best in western powder
The B1 is my western ski. If I plan on staying in-bounds, I leave my AT gear at home and use my B1s for everything. They're not powder skis, but they're good enough in powder for me. Of course, I'm OK at skiing powder and don't need the extra width... I prefer them over the B2 due to thier quicker turning and more pop out of the turn. They're also great in bumps...
post #12 of 18
Check out Peter Keelty's comments on his website on most people really not needing all the width on skis that is currently so vogue. He feels that most skiers are really better off with a ski in the 66-70mm width arena.
post #13 of 18
Rossi B2...soft, forgiving, good first ski for someone who is tired of rentals.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by 2-turn
The Rossi B1 is not a lower level ski. If you're going for bumps, the B1 is your better bet as it's a lot quicker edge to edge than the B2. Although it's not the best pick, they're not horrible in powder either.
OK, so don't listen to me. I just found out Rossi sent the B1 mold to Spain, added a wood core, call it the B1 Bandit and is a piece of garbage. The B1 I was referring to was the white with brown stripe from 2004. Apparently, the 2005 B2 is the 2004 B1, only a little wider. Excuse me while I take my ski boot out of my mouth....
post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 2-turn
OK, so don't listen to me. I just found out Rossi sent the B1 mold to Spain, added a wood core, call it the B1 Bandit and is a piece of garbage. The B1 I was referring to was the white with brown stripe from 2004. Apparently, the 2005 B2 is the 2004 B1, only a little wider. Excuse me while I take my ski boot out of my mouth....

so what is it exactly that's so bad about the B1 then?? btw i'm looking at the 2006 model
post #16 of 18
Quick note: There are still a few new 04/05 B1's around the web if you scratch, look at the sites that handle closeouts, new older skis etc. Haven't tried the new one, reviews have downgraded it to intermediate, and Rossi seems to have lost interest. Original was best all purpose bump ski ever made, IMO. (Still own a pair just for that.)
post #17 of 18
>>Every time i go i'm getting better in the bumps so I'd like a ski that i can ski everything in.

I own the RX6's and have demo'd the B1's. The RX6's ROCK: I have not regretted buying the RX6's for one ski second -- the integrated railflex binding system really is superior, overall the 6's have more tip to tail control/stability, and "work really great" in the bumps (Unfortunately, even in the bump clinics we took, I still outskied 9/10th of the 40 people class with my RX6's, compared to guys and women in really high end/bump skis).

I found the B1's a little too "spongy", but some people will tell you that the RX6's are a little too stiff for their liking. It's all about the skier's preference -- where you are today, and where you think you'll want to go tomorrow. I like feeling full control over the ski -- for example, the RX6's are far superior to the K2 One Luv's in this regard.

To do it again? I outgrew the 6's after 3 long seasons -- if I didn't already have the 6's, I'd have picked up the RX8's this year. With the small price difference (@ end of season), strongly consider the RX8 if you want a ski to grow into, but be cautious: sometimes you need the "one for now" and not "the one forever"

(i.e. my machetes really are unstoppable... and it's a great compliment to the now growing quiver).

Tip: If you ever get a chance, try Bump Busters @Copper Mountain with Steve Karp, ex World Cup Mogul master, and his instructor-based team -- the clinic kicks butt. No matter what ski you have, you'll come out so much stronger.

Good luck.
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by beyond
Quick note: There are still a few new 04/05 B1's around the web if you scratch, look at the sites that handle closeouts, new older skis etc. Haven't tried the new one, reviews have downgraded it to intermediate, and Rossi seems to have lost interest. Original was best all purpose bump ski ever made, IMO. (Still own a pair just for that.)
The 2006 Rossi B1 is different from the older models; wider waist from 70mm to 74mm, the core has changed from foam to a wood core. And yeah, they did down grade the 06 B1 to an intermediate ski.

IMO, the older B1 was a very good high end all mountain ski for the east, similar to the K2 Axis X. I demoed each and would have bought either; the deciding factor was which one I can get for a good deal.
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