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Preferred access at Copper?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Copper recently announced it will continue a program from last year that gives homeowners the chance to buy a $999 pass for access to "dedicated liftlines," at certain lifts. Pass holders can also ride the American Eagle lift 15 minutes before the general public and use special VIP lines at rental facilities.

A great deal for some, but others think it stinks. One Copper resident has launched a Web site to protest the deal: http://members.aol.com/CprBeeLineProtst/Index.html
What do you all think?
post #2 of 9
Honestly I think that if your willing to pay for it that is fine. Last year I thought they offered preferred status to guest that bought their entire ski package through Copper?
post #3 of 9
Hmmmm. First-class airplane tickets cost more than coach, too. United Airlines doesn't own the air space, but it can still charge more for preferred use of its property, the airplanes. I am no lawyer, but the public lands argument on the web site doesn't make sense. Intrawest is charging more for preferred use of its property, the lifts. It isn't a preferred use of the public lands.

The black/white back-of-the-bus argument is REALLY off-base.

Besides, I never saw enough people "cutting" in the Beeline to make much of an impact on the overall line length. (Of course, I try to avoid those lines at the bottom anyway, so my observation is not "scientific.")
post #4 of 9
Originally posted by segbrown:

Besides, I never saw enough people "cutting" in the Beeline to make much of an impact on the overall line length.
Agree, never saw to many folks using it, and thought it was pretty humorous watching the few rub up against the obelisk.

Really is it all that different from cutting the lines when you are in a lesson?
post #5 of 9
Last year we booked a package directly through Copper reservations, and the Beeline thing was part of the deal. It gave you direct acess to a reserved liftline. It came in handy, we never waited in a lift line, we were there the first week in February when they were having the dealer demos, so it was quite crowded.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
Great feedback & food for thought - thanks!
post #7 of 9
I wasn't aware that the Beeline was available to homeowners last year, only to guests staying at Copper that had booked their trip with Copper Resorts. If it really is available for $999 vs. the $199 that a "regular" homeowners season pass cost - well, $800 is a helluva lotta greenbacks to part with in order to save what is usually a 5 - 10 minute wait in line. My reaction during my days skiing at Copper this year is the same as Seg's & Kima's. The thing was hardly ever used that I noticed and it didn't impact my wait in the lift lines.
post #8 of 9
Ah, the sqeaking wheel does get heard.

The Summit Daily reported today that Copper's Beeline Advantage program is under review by the Forest Service as a possible violation of Forest Service Policy. Apparently the program can only be authorized by the Forest Service only if there is a demonstrated need for the activity, it is consistent with the way Forest Lands are managed, it is appropriate use for Forest Service and and is the public interest. The Forest Service says it must be availlable to all guests.

So to make it available to all guests Copper will sell you a Beeline day ticket for $124!!!!!!! : Or you can buy a Beeline season pass for $999. : Both are available to locals, guests and homeowners.

Copper has compared the Beeline program to Vails First Tracks program which allows groups of 20 or more to ski for an hour before the lifts open to the public. The funds from First Tracks pay for early opening expenses and benefits local charities according to a Vail spokesperson.

Copper and the Forest Service hope to reach a resolution before Coppers opening day of November 2.

According to the Summit Daily, Martha Kettelle, supervisor of the White River National Forest on whose land Copper operates by permit, is not satisfied there is a demonstrated public need for the activity.

In an editorial today The Denver Post opined the Beeline program exists not to enhance the skiing experience but to lure real estate and hotel customers.

Interesting indeed!!
post #9 of 9
This reminds me somewhat of what Disney does at its resorts, they have something called fastpass where you put your admission ticket into a machine and it spits back a pass that is valid for a certain time period, I think its an hour time frame. So instead of waiting on the space mountain line for 4 hours you get a fast pass and can walk right on the ride! The trick is that they only give a certain number of passes out for that time period. I think Deer Valley does it already, they limit the number of passes that they sell per day. The only thing that I think needs to change is that day skiers ought to be able to pay a premium for the privlage of using the beeline.
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