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Prohete surprise

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
No......this is not an entree at a Luau.

I needed some fat skis for the wall, so I just ordered some Prohete's from Fischer. I figured I'd better ski on one before I started to sell 'em. The samples that I tried were a 190 and a brief fling on a 170. The 190 is normally pretty big for me on a ski of this width. (135-106-123)

Surprise, surprise, surprise........this is a really cool ski. It has a typical alpline flex pattern, pretty even, with a slightly softer tip. I would call the overall flex medium for the genre. As big as it was, this ski turned pretty easily and absolutely crushed wierd broken snow. The closest comparison that I can make is that it skis like a bigger Rossi B4. The Prohete has the same damp, stable feel as the B4 and has similar shape proportions approx 1 cm wider all the way down. The Fischer is stiffer tosionally but in the all day soft stuff, I couldn't feel any difference in grip. I think the Fischer has a bit more 'pop'.

I would say that skiers would size a bit smaller than the B4 (say 180 Prohete = 184 B4). I also think that the 170 Prohete would be a great powder ski for tight trees. It is a big step up in float and stability compared to say a 175 Pocket Rocket.

Who woulda thunkit??

SJ
post #2 of 18
So is it the Prohete or the Prophete? Look at the listing on Backcountry.com and you'll see why there's confusion (http://www.backcountry.com/store/FIS0034/Fischer-Prohete-106-Alpine-Ski.html?mv_pc=r126&CP=Froogle&CMP=SPC-Froogle&ATT=041206&GCID=C2000x025&keyword=prohete+ 106+alpine+ski)

I've see it both ways in numerous other places too. On the ski itself it sure looks like it should be Prohete.
post #3 of 18
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Originally Posted by Noodler
So is it the Prohete or the Prophete? Look at the listing on Backcountry.com and you'll see why there's confusion (http://www.backcountry.com/store/FIS0034/Fischer-Prohete-106-Alpine-Ski.html?mv_pc=r126&CP=Froogle&CMP=SPC-Froogle&ATT=041206&GCID=C2000x025&keyword=prohete+ 106+alpine+ski)

I've see it both ways in numerous other places too. On the ski itself it sure looks like it should be Prohete.
T'would be Prohete. Can't trust those granola eaters to get anything right.

SJ
post #4 of 18
"Prohete: Supernatural Being" is what's on the Fischer sticker on the skis.
post #5 of 18
Two different skis: Line Prophet, Fischer Prohete.
post #6 of 18

medium for the genre

Would that make it significantly softer than the Atua?
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by comprex
Would that make it significantly softer than the Atua?
Not significantly. I haven't had an Atua around for awhile now, but IIRC it was not as stiff as it's rep. The Prohete is somewhat softer in the tip, but the rest of the stick feels similar. I think the Fischer huck-maniacs favor the Watea.

FWIW: (old guy commenting on biiiiig skis) I doubt that it would make much sense for the Prohete to be any stiffer than it is.

SJ
post #8 of 18
The Atua has a considerably beefier flex than the Prohete. The Prohete is simply the last in the long line of BigStix 106/10.6 iterations, and is very prone to edge blowouts, especially compared to the rest of the Fischer freeride line with their laminate vertical sidewall construction (the Prohete is cap).

The Prohete is possibly the biggest, softest ski on the market. Anybody who thinks they are stiff needs only ski a Legend Pro, Titan Pro, ANT, Squads, or many other big-mountain chargers to know this.

I find the flex severly limits how fast I can ski them, and thus I typically grab the Watea's instead, as the flex is far more suited to going fast.

Next year is the last year of them.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by BakerBoy
The Atua has a considerably beefier flex than the Prohete. The Prohete is simply the last in the long line of BigStix 106/10.6 iterations, and is very prone to edge blowouts, especially compared to the rest of the Fischer freeride line with their laminate vertical sidewall construction (the Prohete is cap).

The Prohete is possibly the biggest, softest ski on the market. Anybody who thinks they are stiff needs only ski a Legend Pro, Titan Pro, ANT, Squads, or many other big-mountain chargers to know this.

I find the flex severly limits how fast I can ski them, and thus I typically grab the Watea's instead, as the flex is far more suited to going fast.

Next year is the last year of them.
I just pulled the trigger on a pair of Atua's, mainly based on research on Teton Gravity and reviews from the Maggotts. Won't have a chance to ski them this year unless I head up to Whistler in late May but I've heard some very good things about the Fischer Freeride line up. Any idea on what Fischer has in the line-up for next year or more of the same?
post #10 of 18
Next years freeride line is the same skis with newer graphics (same sort of look) they are bringing out two new twintip park skis the Addict and Habit.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom
Next years freeride line is the same skis with newer graphics (same sort of look) they are bringing out two new twintip park skis the Addict and Habit.

Any pics?

Thanks
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
From Bakerboy

"I find the flex severly limits how fast I can ski them, and thus I typically grab the Watea's instead, as the flex is far more suited to going fast."

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Certainly, the Prohete is stiffer than the current B4, The 1080 Gun, the legend 8800, and the Armadas. Perhaps for you the flex is too soft. However the ski is not intended for the same skier as the LP, BS, or other big planks. The Prohete is quite good for those who are looking to mash crud and wind pack and float in chowdah at moderate speeds. Many of those skiers are simply not as concerned about maximum warp speeds at all times.

I loaned out my demo both days last weekend and this Tuesday as well. I sold three out of three so for a lot of skiers, it seems to work pretty dang well.

SJ
post #13 of 18

SierraJim ?

So how do you compare the Prohetes to the Wateas?
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudfoot
So how do you compare the Prohetes to the Wateas?
'Fraid I can't b/c I have not skied the Watea. As MBB pointed out, the Watea is certainly a more powerful ski. Many folks (including me) just don't need that much stiffness in a big ski.

Heck! I wanna be going slower when I hit that tree.........:

SJ
post #15 of 18
I guess I'm about to find out. I walked into The Lift House in SLC 3 weeks ago and told the guy I was looking for a powder/deep crud approx. 190cm even flexing ski with about 100mm waist that was on the softer side. He immediately pulled out the Watea, which I had never heard of. I compared the flex to the Titan Nines, which were way stiffer. I also compared them to the 99m waisted Atomics (Pimp Dadies I think) which were a little softer. I hate skis with a stiff tail, so I was attracted to the even flex of the Wateas. Since all the skis in the shop were 1/2 price I grabbed them for $450.

When I got home I compared the Wateas to my K2 AK Launchers, which have been my powder skis for the last 4 years, and they seem to have exactly the same flex without the stiff tail, so I am optimistic that they might be just right. I got them mounted and have been fondling them for 3 weeks and going crazy thinking I would have to wait until next season to use them, which was largely responsible for me committing to leave today for SLC dispite a less than stellar forcast. I'll give them a good test the next 3 days and report back.
post #16 of 18

Prohete or Prophete?

Hard to believe but now it is neither. 06/07 literature lists that Fischer ski as "Porohete" I checked with all Fischer sources to date and confirmed the different spelling.
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by martino
Hard to believe but now it is neither. 06/07 literature lists that Fischer ski as "Porohete" I checked with all Fischer sources to date and confirmed the different spelling.
Too funny. They were going for the Maori word "Porohete" last season, but spelled it wrong. So this season they fix it. Talk about confusing the market.

http://www.websters-online-dictionar...Maori/porohete - supernatural being
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Funnier yet, four employees (including me) and three customers have skied my demo which is an '07 and nobody noticed the difference. Sure enough, that demo is spelled 'correctly'.

Duh!!!

SJ
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