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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Have any of you constructed a hot box (for your skis that is ) or forked over the $3k for the Toko Thermo Bag?
Is seems like it would be a good tool to have in the wax room.
post #2 of 17
Thread Starter 
ok i found the earlier thread...
consensus: not safe for home use?
post #3 of 17
I have no idea why you'd say that, other than the binding lubricants and durability issue.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
thats not my opinion - i think it would be a nice tool to have but the feeling i got from the thread was that people do not recommend building your own for use, due to ski damage or whatever.
post #5 of 17
What if you have access to a sauna. Is that hot enough?
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
too hot... unless you have beer...
post #7 of 17
Mikey,

Check out the forum on Nastar.com. There has been numerous discussion threads and design ideas posted there by very knowledgable members.
post #8 of 17

Or try this...

...go to the Rocky Mountain Masters site:

http.rmmskiracing.org

Go to the "SnowNews and Articles" page. You have to page down past all the SnowNews issues to get to the articles. Under the Articles you'll see "HotBox from Hell - Redux" that tells you how to build one. "HotBox from Hell" tells you why you want one, and also some potential detours along the way...
post #9 of 17
Sr55, anything to add on binding lubricants/durability when hotboxed?
post #10 of 17
Does hotboxing mean that you no longer have to wax skis a gazillion times?
post #11 of 17

I guess I wouldn't worry about it too much...

Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex
Sr55, anything to add on binding lubricants/durability when hotboxed?
...assuming you have a consistent, even temperature throughout the hotbox cycle. The Toko Site talks about their $3000 bag:

http://www.tokous.com/thermo_bag.htm

They say optimum is 60 C (140F) for 3 hours. I think that's a little agressive, so I've been doing 120F for 4 hours. Per my article, this seems to give good results re wax absorption without damaging the ski or messing with the binding lube...in other words, using the box I've constructed and the cycle I descibe, no problems with skis or bindings malfunctioning...
post #12 of 17

Your mileage may vary...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
Does hotboxing mean that you no longer have to wax skis a gazillion times?
...but in general, I've had to wax less. I've had weekends, for example, where the snow we trained on wasn't super aggressive, and I got a whole weekend out of a single hotbox job. For rec skiing, probably depends a lot on how aggressive the snow happens to be. I have a pair of Atomic R:Exs I use for powder, and I've only had to wax/box them twice this winter, and we've had a lot of powder...
post #13 of 17
Powder huh.... is that some new sort of man made snow?
post #14 of 17

Move to the Rockies...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
Powder huh.... is that some new sort of man made snow?
...and you can have it all. We had a day this winter where we trained some XLNT high-speed GS with the CU ski team in the morning...then it started snowing big time, so we just got out our fat skis, and...well, you know the rest...
post #15 of 17
Moving to Calgary is looking pretty darn good.

Just have to convince everyone else....
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
Moving to Calgary is looking pretty darn good.

Just have to convince everyone else....
Go Flames Go!
post #17 of 17
And they've got a real hockey team to boot.

It just doesn't stop looking better and better.
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