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Snowbird chair-only question

post #1 of 21
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Is it possible to ski everything at Snowbird without buying the Tram ticket? If so is it a big hassle, or does it just take longer?
post #2 of 21
I only spent one day at Snowbird, but from my understanding of its layout, the tram does help considerably with terrain access. Without it, accessing Peruvian Gulch and The Cirque is difficult. I think you would have to take the Gadzoom express, then ski over to Little Cloud, but even then you're a few hundred feet below the tram, so you must ski into Mineral Basin, and finally, ride the Mineral Basin lift to get to the upper regions of Peruvian Gulch and Cirque runs.

I do not guarantee 100% accuracy about this since I'm not an expert on the area, but I hope this helps. I'd get the tram ticket unless you plan on skiing mostly in Gad Valley.
post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by rogerse2
I only spent one day at Snowbird, but from my understanding of its layout, the tram does help considerably with terrain access. Without it, accessing Peruvian Gulch and The Cirque is difficult. I think you would have to take the Gadzoom express, then ski over to Little Cloud, but even then you're a few hundred feet below the tram, so you must ski into Mineral Basin, and finally, ride the Mineral Basin lift to get to the upper regions of Peruvian Gulch and Cirque runs.

I do not guarantee 100% accuracy about this since I'm not an expert on the area, but I hope this helps. I'd get the tram ticket unless you plan on skiing mostly in Gad Valley.
I'm just asking because the college student pass does not allow for use of the tram. I know the new lift is being put in for next year. Anyone know if this in any way will help accessibility?
post #4 of 21
I believe once they put in the Peruvian Express accessibility will be much easier. At that point you'll have access to any area on the front side except for The Cirque with a single lift ride. Obviously it will help get to Mineral Basin.
post #5 of 21
Yes it's possible, and frequently it gets you skiing a lot quicker - there can be long lines for the tram, when you could ski down to gadzoom, then up little cloud and get to the top that way.
post #6 of 21
When I skied Snowbird, I was able to get everywhere the tram accessed. I personnaly would rather take three lifts and ski a little in between rather than wait in line 15 minutes or more for a tram. That's just me.
post #7 of 21
the tram is handy, and i will probably ski 3 trams in a full day of skiing, but you can ski everything on the mtn without it, you might find it a little confusing getting to the Cirque on top, but you can do it. no big deal to not have the tram, it's worth $10/day for the convenience.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by rogerse2
I believe once they put in the Peruvian Express accessibility will be much easier. At that point you'll have access to any area on the front side except for The Cirque with a single lift ride. Obviously it will help get to Mineral Basin.
Well you won't have access to the whole Regulator side in one ride, right? Still you can get up to that side in two and then just do laps on Little Cloud which can be nice.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lodro
Well you won't have access to the whole Regulator side in one ride, right? Still you can get up to that side in two and then just do laps on Little Cloud which can be nice.
You're right. I misspoke. It will take two lift rides to get to the Road to Provo area and Regulator from Little Cloud. Either way, the new Peruvian lift will help if you don't ride the tram. Once installed, The Cirque will be the only place that will be difficult to get to.
post #10 of 21
When you consider the traffic jam at Little Cloud, and the slowness of the lift, the tram begins to look like a better deal. I was there on a midweek powder day this year, and on arriving at the LC lift, they were only loading every other chair. Made for a slow ride to the top. If its a powder day, arrive early and get the tram ticket, or the top of the mountain will be tracked by the time you get up there. For as big as that place is, it sure does track out fast.
post #11 of 21
I've gone to the Bird every year for the past 5 years and rarely take the tram. I use it for my first run then take the chairs. I don't like taking off the skis and standing in a long line when I can do laps using all the lifts. I spend half the days in Mineral anyway.
post #12 of 21
You could always make friends with someone that has a Seven Summits pass- Then you don't need a pass... and you can ride the Tram without standing in line

BTW I don't have a SS pass but have been lucky enough to meet-up with people that do
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
When you consider the traffic jam at Little Cloud, and the slowness of the lift, the tram begins to look like a better deal. I was there on a midweek powder day this year, and on arriving at the LC lift, they were only loading every other chair. Made for a slow ride to the top. If its a powder day, arrive early and get the tram ticket, or the top of the mountain will be tracked by the time you get up there. For as big as that place is, it sure does track out fast.
When Westerners say tracked out do they mean the snow is already starting to mogul, or that you're just not getting fresh tracks through powder every turn? I think there may be a different perspective for East vs. Westerners.
post #14 of 21
Yeah, when I was there recently after a dump, I quickly figured out that tracked out just means it's no longer unspoiled. It didn't turn the moguls the same day. It's trickier to ski then fresh unspoiled powder.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by kelly001
Yeah, when I was there recently after a dump, I quickly figured out that tracked out just means it's no longer unspoiled. It didn't turn the moguls the same day. It's trickier to ski then fresh unspoiled powder.
Trickier, but a heck of a lot more fun than week-old eastern ice.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Jtran10
When Westerners say tracked out do they mean the snow is already starting to mogul, or that you're just not getting fresh tracks through powder every turn? I think there may be a different perspective for East vs. Westerners.
No longer sustained untracked fresh powder, but lots of soft fluff and mounds.... Yeah, we get spoiled.

When Easterners talk about powder, do they mean any thing that doesn't cause scraping sounds and give you a concussion, or do they mean something soft enough to fly in the air? Can a groomed slope be powder? :

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post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Jtran10
Trickier, but a heck of a lot more fun than week-old eastern ice.
100% with you on that!
post #18 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jtran10
When Westerners say tracked out do they mean the snow is already starting to mogul, or that you're just not getting fresh tracks through powder every turn? I think there may be a different perspective for East vs. Westerners.
I'm from the east, and to me tracked out means no more fresh tracks. I've never heard anyone (east or west) use any other definition....
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
No longer sustained untracked fresh powder, but lots of soft fluff and mounds.... Yeah, we get spoiled.

When Easterners talk about powder, do they mean any thing that doesn't cause scraping sounds and give you a concussion, or do they mean something soft enough to fly in the air? Can a groomed slope be powder? :

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No, powder on the East Coast means anything freshly fallen from the sky that's lighter than Sierra Cement: ....and no, a groomed slope isn't powder.
Of course, we sometimes have fresh blown powder which comes out of the ground, rather than from the sky.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by 2-turn
No, powder on the East Coast means anything freshly fallen from the sky that's lighter than Sierra Cement: ....and no, a groomed slope isn't powder.
Of course, we sometimes have fresh blown powder which comes out of the ground, rather than from the sky.
And oftentimes the best powder will be found in the woods, and is actually not as hard to find as one might think, if you know where to look.
post #21 of 21
I believe that you can hit anything on the mountain from the chairs except Silver Fox and Great Scott at the top of the Cirque, but you have to do things like traverse from the top of the Mineral Basin Lift to hit Jaws, which is the next run down the Cirque from Great Scott. I was there two weeks ago on a Saturday that was not particularly crowded and there was a 4 tram wait, so I never even used my Tram Pass.

I don't think not having a Tram Pass is a big deal. Once you know your way around the mountain you can ski everything by just planning your runs.
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