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Tower 3 Chute

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
Hello people i`ve already made a thread called "jaust a question" but a guy who knows better the forum rules helped me telling that i should rename the thread.
So, here it is: Tell me please anyone who knows what the vertical of Tower 3 Chute in Jackson Hole is?
I am interested because i`ve heard a lot about how great this chute is but on pics which i could find it looks really short(perhaps they don`t show it in the full scale..).
Reply ASAP .. :P
post #2 of 27
Welcome to EpicSki, apeyros.

My guess would be about 400 vertical feet from the very top entrance until it opens out into the larger part of Toilet Bowl.

It's a great run but it gets a lot of traffic. It's one of the more famous runs here.

Somewhere around here I've got a photo of it from a few days ago.
post #3 of 27
I'll second that, if the trail map is to scale, and you take a rough measurement of tower 3 chute and then superimpose it on the Hobacks (~1600ft of vertical), you come up with ~1/4 or ~400 ft.

Awesome trail if should get a chance to ski it!
post #4 of 27
Thread Starter 
Well as i thought its rather short...
But if i am right hobacks have 2500 vertical, and not 1600:
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
And one more question if we compare Tower 3 to another famous spot called alta chutes, which one is more challenging?
post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by apeyros
And one more question if we compare Tower 3 to another famous spot called alta chutes, which one is more challenging?
The Alta Chutes are made up of at least 6 or eight different lines.

Alta 1 is the most famous and most-skied. The steep portion of A1 is steeper than Tower 3 by perhaps three or four degrees and - in a normal year - A1 chokes down to a slightly narrower crux than Tower 3.

One big difference is that Alta 1 only has one significant obstacle - a small rock rib right at the top of the crux. If you were to fall above the crux of A1, your slide path could take you over that rock but I don't think serious injury would *necessarily* ensue. Tower 3, on the other hand, has a number of trees in the slide path AND it bends left as it drops so a slide potentially takes you into a rock wall on the right. A fall in Tower 3 can have (and definitely has had) much more serious consequences than a fall in Alta 1. So the question of which is more challenging depends a little bit on whether you think a fall is possible.

The other Alta Chutes are Alta 2-A and Alta 2-B, both of which are much narrower and a little steeper than Alta 1; Alta 3, which is more of a steep, tree-dotted face than a specific chute and is also the easiest of the Alta Chutes; and Alta Zero, which is normally closed and when it is open is a very challenging series of connect-the-dots pillows, drops, and slots.

My own preference leans toward the Alta Chutes over Tower 3, but that's just me.
post #7 of 27
Are you asking about vertical feet as in the length of the trail or vertical drop, the diference in elevation between the start and the finish?

For me personally Tower 3 is harder cause I skied it on long, straight skis and the funnel at the bottom was always a challenge. If it's a windy day, Tower 3 is even more challenging while Alta Chutes seems better protected from the wind. They are all short but steep little buggers.
post #8 of 27
Thread Starter 
Bob Peters thank you very much for your complete profund answer
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So the question of which is more challenging depends a little bit on whether you think a fall is possible
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Well so the fall is always possible... oh poor Doug.... But nevermind.

And what do you think to be the greatest spot for an expert skier in JH. The situtation is that i`m going perhaps to visit jackson next year and i need a piece of advice...
post #9 of 27
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JHrefugee i meant vertical drop:P
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by apeyros
...

And what do you think to be the greatest spot for an expert skier in JH. The situtation is that i`m going perhaps to visit jackson next year and i need a piece of advice...

...
That's an EASY question.

Corbet's Couloir: :






After that, everything else inbounds is just cake (except S&S Couloir, that is).

You might also want to read this:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=16592&highlight=steeper+skiing+ja ckson+hole

Have fun and look me up when you come here, okay?
post #11 of 27
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Yepp,no problem man! How can i find you there?
post #12 of 27
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Your guide is ultra great Bob! I`ve just started reading it and have a question: what do you mean pretty steep when you speak about toilet bowl, is it about 40 degrees or less?
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by apeyros
Your guide is ultra great Bob! I`ve just started reading it and have a question: what do you mean pretty steep when you speak about toilet bowl, is it about 40 degrees or less?
You can pm me for my contact info (if you click on my name on any of these threads, a menu will drop down and there's a choice that allows you to send me a private message).

Toilet Bowl is mostly between 35 and 40 degrees. A couple of parts of it on skier's left (Toilet Face) are above 40.
post #14 of 27
Thread Starter 
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The Hobacks can be some of the sweetest skiing real estate on the planet if you hit them at the right time. Very long (almost 3,000 vertical feet
I was right about Hobacks`s vertical. I`ve never been to JH, and i don`t know why but i already LOVE this mountain- these are my emotions after reading Bob's Extremely Unofficial and Completely Unauthorized Guide to Steeper Skiing at Jackson Hole
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by apeyros
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I`ve never been to JH, and i don`t know why but i already LOVE this mountain...
What a coincidence.

I've skied here since 1969 and I still LOVE this mountain...

But I do know why.

You'll have fun here.
post #16 of 27
Pretty hard to beat "The Big One" -- I have not found anyplace I would rather ski (well, Alta is pretty good too).

Mike
post #17 of 27
While reviewing chutes don't overlook the "expert chutes" they seem to hold snow a bit longer being that they take a bit of effort to get to, and my personel fav of them would be insomina. What a year we had; the expert chutes were more like a bowl this year
post #18 of 27
Bob peters says"

After that [Corbets pix deleted] , everything else inbounds is just cake (except S&S Couloir, that is)."

A nonskier at my work had a totally awesome poster of S&S Couloir
in his cubicle. The most incredible ski poster I've ever seen.
I'd die to find a copy of it somewhere. About 20-30 years old.

Otoh, I wouldn't dream of skiing S&S.
Corbets- been there done that

John in MD
post #19 of 27
Did Corbet's fill in this year?

I have skied it when there is a legitimate jump 7-10 ft and rock dodge.

However, I also skied it in 99/00 when it really filled in and was maybe a 4-5 ft hop after a ramp. Not tough.

Just curious.
post #20 of 27
I'm curious why Corbet's is so highly regarded. Granted its a beautiful locale and the drop in is intimidating but otherwise it isn't anything special, not particularly steep or difficult. Or am I forgetting something (its been 25 yrs or so)?
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Mdskier

A nonskier at my work had a totally awesome poster of S&S Couloir
in his cubicle. The most incredible ski poster I've ever seen.
I'd die to find a copy of it somewhere. About 20-30 years old.

Otoh, I wouldn't dream of skiing S&S.
Corbets- been there done that

John in MD
It might be a Bob Woodall poster. His office used to be in the bottom of the Hostel in TV and his website is www.focusproductions.com.
post #22 of 27
Well, when I was in JH at the beginning of Feb, the ski patrol had not been bombing the cornice at the top of Corbets. Given how much snow they had received, it was at least 25 feet of air -- too much for me.

Mike
post #23 of 27

Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by JHrefugee
It might be a Bob Woodall poster. His office used to be in the bottom of the Hostel in TV and his website is www.focusproductions.com.
Thanks JHrefugee,

I just realized I've still got a poster that Bob Woodall gave me entitled "Corbet's Couloir" (from 1996). He generously gave me a number of posters when I talked to him a couple of times about his hip replacment.

The main picture in this poster is Rick Armstrong with side photos of Doug Coombs, Steve Jones, Dirk Collins, and John Griber hoppin in.

With this as a reminder I'm going to go get this one (and a couple of others) framed.
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by Si
Thanks JHrefugee,

I just realized I've still got a poster that Bob Woodall gave me entitled "Corbet's Couloir" (from 1996). He generously gave me a number of posters when I talked to him a couple of times about his hip replacment.

The main picture in this poster is Rick Armstrong with side photos of Doug Coombs, Steve Jones, Dirk Collins, and John Griber hoppin in.

With this as a reminder I'm going to go get this one (and a couple of others) framed.
I contacted Woodall and found all the neat Corbets posters are out of print.

Bummed in MD
post #25 of 27
Mdskier,

I think I just lucked out in that he gave me a few that they had extra's of in the office. Keep a lookout, though, there are sometimes a few of these to be found in the bins of ski town tourist shops.

If I find I have an extra of something I'll let you know.
post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by oisin
I'm curious why Corbet's is so highly regarded. Granted its a beautiful locale and the drop in is intimidating but otherwise it isn't anything special, not particularly steep or difficult. Or am I forgetting something (its been 25 yrs or so)?
Yeah, it's not steep or difficult. Mostly known for the scenery. The views of Jackson Hole from Corbett's are not to be missed.
post #27 of 27

Done This Before

Guys,

We did like 5 pages on Corbet's last winter complete with photographs from every conceivable angle with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was.

Tower 3 Chute was the first place I ever experience slough. I remember jamming along, having a blast, and suddenly this loose snow I had kicked up was passing me by. I laughed out loud. That was a fun day.
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