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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
http://dalebootusa.com/catalog1.htm?

I got a pair of these from the Daleboot guy. My liners are snug enouogh so I don't need them but I let a few people "demo" them.

1. My Mother in Law, Boot: Dalbello V8 with a stock liner. These boots were fitted by the fitters at Okemo. She has about 75 days in the liners so they have packed out a bit. She was feeling loose in the heel. We put the heel holsters in and they snugged up perfect. Unfortunatly, she is done skiing, so an on snow report will have to wait.

2. Paul Joness. Paul has a narrow heel so he has trouble with getting snug. I brought them along on Sunday. I will let Paul post his comments.
post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by Daleboot
Together or separately, with the forefoot shim, heel nest, and halter, you can adjust your innerboot yourself as shown in the above illustrations
Forefoot shim? Is there a picture of this?

How tall is the rigid plastic?
post #3 of 18
how much did it cost, Phil?
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
I have just the heel section, the neopreem part. As far as the price, I really don't know what they are charging. I ran into one of the guys at a demo and he sent them to me to play with.
post #5 of 18
Phil, Mel Dalebout is one of the great ski boot inventors. He invented the foam liner, and the detachable sole with different canting angles, for example. He won a suit against other boot makers when they stole his foam idea. Solomon licensed his detachable soles many years ago.

He foamed me in '71 using his universal liners and some Lange boots. He got it right the first time, something no one else has done on my skinny foot. (I have been foamed by the Solomon rep, Le Boot Lab in Winter Park, and most recently by a member of America's Best Bootfitters and all of the others needed much work afterwards to get them snug enough to ski). He must be in his 80's now, but still goes to work almost every day!! Great guy.

I wish his fitting products were available at retail stores, but he is great about returns if something doesn't work for you. Lew

PS- Phil, you were right in your advice to try shorter skis. I am now on some Machete Souls in 175 and can't believe how stable they are, even in spring crud. I was convinced I needed length for confidence and balance in that kind
of snow.
post #6 of 18
Lewbob is right Dale has held more patents on Ski Boots and related products then any other Boot Company. Most others wait until his pattens expire then steal his designs. I just want to ad to lewbobs comments Dale made the first plastic shell boot Lange stole his design. Dale sued Lange and won in court. Lange still takes credit for being the first. Mel Dale has a very inventive mind. He has done a lot for skiing and ski boots without taking much credit. If he was 1/2 as good at business as he is at building ski boots he would own the ski boot market.
post #7 of 18
We were pulling apart a client's boots the other day, as he was very bow legged and frustrated by the effect it was having on his edging, so we were trying some in-the-boot canting with trail maps.

I was intrigued to see that he had something similar to the heel nests; it was a bit of plastic running around the heel pocket area, a strip. To hold the heel down. I'd never seen this before (and having narrow heels was interested in it). It came with the boots, apparently, and I'm blowed if I can remember the brand! But it wasn't Dale.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by ant
We were pulling apart a client's boots the other day, as he was very bow legged and frustrated by the effect it was having on his edging, so we were trying some in-the-boot canting with trail maps.

I was intrigued to see that he had something similar to the heel nests; it was a bit of plastic running around the heel pocket area, a strip. To hold the heel down. I'd never seen this before (and having narrow heels was interested in it). It came with the boots, apparently, and I'm blowed if I can remember the brand! But it wasn't Dale.
ant, I remember a bootfitter using a plastic shim to tighten my wife's heel many years ago. I was gray plastic that was like a big cup that ran around the ankle area, but had a cut out at the heel. It was very affective, but I haven't seen it since. The principal was kind of like the new Head boots with the plastic liner that can be removed: it narrowed the ankle area with uncompressable material. I think plastic shims would be great for tightening boots because they won't compress. They just make for a narrower shell. Why don't we make some? LewBob
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Utah49
Lewbob is right Dale has held more patents on Ski Boots and related products then any other Boot Company. Most others wait until his pattens expire then steal his designs. I just want to ad to lewbobs comments Dale made the first plastic shell boot Lange stole his design. Dale sued Lange and won in court. Lange still takes credit for being the first. Mel Dale has a very inventive mind. He has done a lot for skiing and ski boots without taking much credit. If he was 1/2 as good at business as he is at building ski boots he would own the ski boot market.
Do you remember his magnesium boots? Those were truly unique. Lew
post #10 of 18
I was going to say something about those boots but thought everyone would think I was seeing UFOs again.
post #11 of 18
Those heel things were a good idea. They were branded with the same brand as the boots (Head? maybe?). Thing is, the guy had these things in and the forefoot of the boots had bits of neoprene padding stuck on. The friggin shells plainly did not fit him. He had narrow banana feet.

I asked him if the bootfitter had tried him in some Langes, as they are "the" narrow boot, but the guy looked blank.

Most skiiers are at the mercy of shops when they go to buy stuff.
This "bootfitter" hadn't picked up on the guy's massive alignment problem... he'd "canted" the cuffs, big deal, that won't help, you have to start under the foot.
post #12 of 18
Lewbob, check the www.nordicausa.com consumer store under Parts/Miscellaneous
post #13 of 18
The Dale boot unit is neoprene. It slides on easily and is snug to the outside of the liner. It worked real well for me on Sunday. It seemed like just the right size for my situation.

Dale's is not plastic, it is a soft neoprene. The neoprene takes up space without being a hard object in the boot.
post #14 of 18
Next trip we make out to SLC, I'll plan to stop in. Here's some info on the cost:

http://dalebootusa.com/printform.pdf
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by comprex
Lewbob, check the www.nordicausa.com consumer store under Parts/Miscellaneous
That is it, or very similar. For someone with a low volume foot it would be better than the neoprene because it won't compress. I may have to get some-handy to have around. Thanks for the link. LewBob
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones
The Dale boot unit is neoprene. It slides on easily and is snug to the outside of the liner. It worked real well for me on Sunday. It seemed like just the right size for my situation.

Dale's is not plastic, it is a soft neoprene. The neoprene takes up space without being a hard object in the boot.
Paul, Everyone's needs are different. I am an extremely low volume foot and ankle. I have been foam fit in my last 3 boots and still had to have padding on the outside of the liner. (we used an injection kit for a liner two sizes bigger on the last job, and they still were very loose). If I had had thin plastic shims to line the shell before foaming, or even after, it would work better than compressible material. The year after I was foamed Head came up with what I was imagining. The only problem is that their plastic shims just allow you to make the boot wider by removing them. I was thinking of a product like that to make a boot narrower for those of us with "chicken legs," as Jeff Bergeron calls them. LewBob
post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 
I also have one of Daleboots neopreme "foot nest", or whatever they want to call it. It will fill up volume over the whole foot area.
post #18 of 18
LewBob, I too have a very low volume foot. How low in comparison to you? I don't know. But it's really low. The neoprene does not compress very much and there is alot of it.

I also have used foam liners - since 1971. I am presently in a shell size that is too big and these ankle snuggers worked real well for me.

Hell, I would also like to try the Head set up or what ever. I will try anything that I have the opportunity to try. Fit for me is the number one issue that holds back my skiing.
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