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MA more spring crud.

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
This is taken today at Sugarbowl,
The first run is off Mount Lincoln in Chute 2 1/2
The conditions are Very chopped up Sierra Cement heavy crud..

The second run is skiers left of Vanderbilt and past the cliffs. Same snow conditions maybe a little bit heavier down here.

Survival Video
post #2 of 9
This looks like better skiing than the other spring crud video. I'm not sure if the conditions are much different, but for heavy crud it looks like fairly good skiing.

I haven't participated in many MAs and my credentials are zilch, so I'll only comment on one thing that I see in this video. You don't counter as aggressively as I think would be necessary. Although you're not changing edges very quickly at the transition I would think you would still want more counter with your shoulders staying square to the fall-line. Is this something that is considered correct for LIII? So even though you have some traversing between the turns your shoulders square up to your skis and stay there even when the turn is already initiating. I find that if my shoulders square up to my skis I have a harder time with turn initiation, but you don't seem to be getting "caught" on an edge in your turn transitions so maybe I'm seeing something that isn't really an issue. I would expect to see more "hopping up" if you were truly having a problem getting your skis to release.

I'm learning too as you post more videos. It's fun to disect skiing video and consider how it applies to your own skiing.

BTW - I just rewatched the video and your stance looks really comfortable and not "forced" in this skiing. So forget about my comments in the other thread. It's hard to judge some things from a video and I'm sure you're doing what feels comfortable for the slope.
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
This video is a later date. It's probably not quite as steep but the snow is probably heavier and more chopped up. I've been working on stuff up to this point so it's possible I'm getting better at this. I think I'm trying to stand taller which might be part of the "help" and also it's just us skiing rather than any "task" or under "exam conditions" so maybe I'm just more relaxed.. I still see lot's of things I need to work on but the video looks a lot smoother than it felt but I'm now learning that this is normal.

Thanks for your comments. It's been a humbling and learning experience to put up video of any kind.

As far as traversing, I'm trying not to traverse but I'm also trying to be as patient as the transition happens. I'm trying to get my CM moving into the turn and letting the skis travel out and hook up themselves. Not being SR turns or trying to be SR turns I probably let my shoulders square up a little more than I should but hopefully I was standing tall enough and moving into the turn well enough to keep the flow going (most of the time) I do see a few ab'stems I'd love to get back but it was fun skiing.

DC
post #4 of 9
Good job. Looks alot better than previous videos. Hands are leading and better absorbtion.
post #5 of 9
There's an obvious improvement from the earlier crud video, David. I still think you could be more patient with the beginning of turns, just a bit more "peaceful" in the initiations. I think you're skiing from foot to foot a bit too much. I think you'd feel more sure about the turns if you were using both skis to start them. If you watch your inside foot, most of the turns where it's visible, you're all but picking it up to get it out of the way rather than involving it in the extension and edge change. Your pole action is much more positive here, there's a bit more blending of some turns into the next. Overall, I'd call it a good gain from the earlier one. You should feel good about that.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
and the beat goes on. Thanks.. I think the beating I took at Mammoth is starting to set in... :
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by slider
Good job. Looks alot better than previous videos. Hands are leading and better absorbtion.
I agree, very nice job dchan!
post #8 of 9
Great skiing dachan, especially on the second clip. One thing I did not mention earlier is that your cameraman should not film that much from behind. Take shorter clips and take them primarily from the front. Now majority is from the back and there is too much zoom.

Anyway, yes, your skiing looks much better. Still I would close that stance in conditions like after you pass the cameraman in the first clip. Maybe you notise it yourselfe that when you hit lots of loose snow and bumps you have trouble getting your skis to scarve and skidd in and underneath the snow. You simply do not look as though you belong were you are. You need better momentum and force and determination in order to stay uner controll. In the second clip you ski very well. Its very very steep but you manage to keep a good flow going with good rhythm in your turning. A couple of times you lift your inside ski on your left turn but othervise that wide stance look good and works well. Nothing wrong there. In clip 1, close your stance, in clip 2 stance is good.
post #9 of 9
DC,

Many people don't realize what steep crud does to most people's skiing. When a good skier goes through this stuff, you don't see where the snow grabs and releases to throw them off. This stuff looks like light fluff on top of somewhat iffy packed. This is the kind of snow you either have to dial it up to blow through it or dial it down to avoid getting "caught". You are dialing it down. When you do get caught, you revert to defensive skiing and relying on old habits. From your description of what you were working on, you can see the improvements.

I see a generally pretty solid fore/aft balance with maybe a shade in the back seat at times. Stance width is generally good, but you let it get wide on you at times and that causes trouble in this kind of snow. Your turn initiation is with an up move and you get caught several times with the inside ski lifting off the snow as a result. Notice how you shop for the second right turn. I see a little bit of Z turning and tail pushing to deal with the steepness of the slope. You can see the attempts to stand taller being just slightly overcome by the tail pushing and the crud fighting (rounded shoulders). Every know and then you get caught one way or another and get knocked around a bit. The second run has a nice rhythm to it. BTW - Was that a Mammoth earthquake at the end?

I'm not worried about noodlers counter issue so much because what I see is that you are giving whatever counter you have much too quickly. I think Kneale's patience suggestion will help better to get the result that Noodler wants to see.

With this kind of snow and pitch, I like to let the speed crank up and make shallower turns. But with the buried bumps and flat light that approach could be disastrous on these runs. The problem with the wider turns is that it's hard to commit the lower body to the turn first. You don't really have the room to finish the turn uphill and you feel the need to pop up to unweight the skis out of the sticky soft snow. It's hard to feel solid about any suggestions not knowing exactly how that snow felt.

Given that caveat, here are three suggestions:
1) Ten toes
2) Narrower stance
3) Functional tension
Ten toes is an exercise where you focus on holding all ten toes in the fall line before turning out of it. A narrower stance will help prevent wandering ski syndrome as the skis experience more of the same snow consistency. This is a crud snow suggestion only, but it will also help you get your lower body more involved in turn initiation. Using your core muscles more will reduce getting knocked around. The trick here is tense your stomach and back muscles more to resist forced movements. This should help keep you more centered over your skis.

If you get a chance to see the unofficial PSIA "just good skiing" DVD, the opening skier is a great example of the next step up in crud skiing from where you are here. If you watch the outside ski you can see it get knocked around wildly while the upper body stays solid.
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