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What is an "intermediate" or "advanced" skier?

post #1 of 6
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I don't feel qualified to comment on the other thread - What is an expert skier? but I'd like to know what people think defines an "intermediate" or "advanced" skier.

I'd particularly like to hear stories from people who had a sudden epiphany or insight & realized they had progressed a step in their skiing.

For myself, I call myself a high intermediate/low advanced skier because I suck a LOT less than I used to.
post #2 of 6
The advanced skier is making parallel turns and is not using the wedge or a wedge position as a means to initiate the turn.The wedge is only used in panic situations to control speed.

Unweighting the downhill ski by the use of relaxation or stepping to the uphill ski, initiates the turn. Skiing on similtaneously engaged edges by rolling same downhill into the new turn.

There is the linking of well rounded turns with a fluidity as the end of one turn is in fact the beginning of the next. Also the skier is developing an awareness of anticipation,
the separation of the lower body [below the waist,] where the turns happen, from the more stable and quite upper body.

Finally do seek out some professional instruction to help you progress in your skiing technique.
post #3 of 6
Wink - I always though that these were all traits of an upper intermediate skier.
post #4 of 6
Are they even "upper intermediate?" Maybe my wife and I are better than I think. We both maked linked parallel turns. We can both carve nice sweeping long turns -- well, at least she can, I stille slide em too much. We to fit the definition. But if we get on "hard intermediate" terrain our technique pretty much goes down the tube. I think we have the rudiments of "intermediate" skills, but not the experience or confidence to be high intermediate skiers. We're developing novices.
post #5 of 6
The opinionated Gonzoscale: [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

Advanced: Can ski steeper groomers (East Coast single black diamond, Rocky Mtn tougher blue squares), can ski gentle moguls, can manage pretty well in shallow powder (under 12" fresh). Common PSIA level: 6-8

Intermediate: what Wink described as general avoidance of the wedge in situations other than emergencies; generally able to make stem or linked parallel turns. Common PSIA level: 4-6

I don't think one approaches upper levels of "advanced" skiing ability (PSIA levels 7-8) until one really can ski a lot of single black diamond runs in the Rocky Mountains in variable conditions -- powder, hardpack, some ice, windslab, coral reef, crud, chickenheads, granular, and any mixture of those -- regardless of whether there are moguls or trees or rocks to negotiate.

To me, Level 8 is awfully close to "expert" status but reflects a few fundamental flaws that have created a very high wall. It's a skier who needs to put in LOTS of effort to get incremental improvement.

At the intermediate level, improvements can come fairly quickly for a diligent student who has decent balance, coordination and general athletic skill.

If I haven't confused you with the above information and opinions, then I'm not doing very well at my job. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #6 of 6
In CA (at least at Northstar-at-Tahoe) 6-7 is intermediate and 8-9 is advanced. Level 8 clinic starts on single-black-diamond moguls (they don't have double black runs there, except maybe in the trees), whereas Level 7 clinic ends on groomed single-black-diamond runs and blue moguls. Tree runs are reserved for Level 9.
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