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MODS: Racing forum addition?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hey mods -
Do you think there is enough of a demand for a racing folder? equipment, media (pics/vids), chat, etc.
post #2 of 22
mikey_10, perhaps. But, what I'd rather see is some additional traffic around those topics first. I'm not so sure about equipment, but the other areas (technique, pics/vids, discussion of results) are all possible areas for expansion.
post #3 of 22
It is certainly something to keep in mind... Being a racer I think it would be great, but as Steve said, traffic would be an issue. We also do not want to start creating a sub-forum for every aspect of skiing. The site would become too confusing and divided. I do like the idea, especially for racing because it is such a huge part of the sport, although, not the only part. I personally would rather keep the technique discussion in the technique forum, so that questions can be seen and are seen by all of our pro's, and not just the few that may frequent a race section...
Later
GREG
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
true - that makes sense - maybe just a section with links to vids and pics, and results would make sense then.
post #5 of 22
I kinda like the idea. It would keep me interested anyway.

Racers tend to be alot nicer than the general masses, we might get some serious technical stuff discussed instead of insults and barbs and pmts/psia shite slinging.

racers dont care what method is used, they just want to talk about what makes them go faster, and are more likely to try something new.

Racers would stand on their head naked singing the National Anthem out loud and sell their first born child if somone told them it would make them faster.

It would be nice not to have to wade through sixteen hundred PSIA/PMTS wrestling matches, nineteen hundred Bode bashing threads, and the general snarkiness of this place before uncovering a golden nugget of useful information by the likes of Gary Dranow or Rick or Vlad or someone like that.

I say yes to racing forum.
post #6 of 22
Ditto to Greg and LindaA. I think it would be a great addition, especially if we could lure our two coaches back
post #7 of 22
Ok. So, talk about what it would look like, please. Specifically.
post #8 of 22
I would be happy with a single "Racing" topic in the instructional section. let Rick or Garydranow or somone with racing experience moderate it.

what would be especially nice would be a whole section like "fitness and health."
topics under that heading:
"Racing Technique/instruction", (teaching systems, advice, how to.)
"Race specific gear" for disscusion about equipment, race waxing, etc.
"On hill training" where we could find information about race specific camps, instructors, etc.

maybe even a results section where we could discuss results of World cup, NASTAR, or USSA masters races...etc.

again, maybe if Rick could moderate it he would come back?

I would be very happy.
post #9 of 22
Ok, or maybe a single topic in the "Specialty Ski Forums." if we need to lump it under one heading. but I would like to see it broken down, as race specific stuff is really different from regular stuff.
post #10 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by LindaA
I would be happy with a single "Racing" topic in the instructional section. let Rick or Garydranow or somone with racing experience moderate it.

what would be especially nice would be a whole section like "fitness and health."
topics under that heading:
"Racing Technique/instruction", (teaching systems, advice, how to.)
"Race specific gear" for disscusion about equipment, race waxing, etc.
"On hill training" where we could find information about race specific camps, instructors, etc.

maybe even a results section where we could discuss results of World cup, NASTAR, or USSA masters races...etc.

again, maybe if Rick could moderate it he would come back?

I would be very happy.
Sounds like a good starter outline

Quote:
Racers would stand on their head naked singing the National Anthem out loud and sell their first born child if somone told them it would make them faster
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Hmm, based on my results this year I might need to try that. Or perhaps not, means more decisions ......which national anthem would I need to sing??!!:
post #11 of 22
Im thiniking the Austrian one right now would probably do the trick....

this technique could bring about interesting changes to the start house/area atmosphere.....
post #12 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by LindaA
Im thiniking the Austrian one right now would probably do the trick....

this technique could bring about interesting changes to the start house/area atmosphere.....
and gives a whole new meaning to "skin suits" and "old wrinklies" in Masters racing....
post #13 of 22
***shudder***

it would be pretty cold!

running the coats down would be funny, I imagine somone with a pile of coats and a pair of skivvies hanging off the pair of training skis slung over his shoulder.....


Seriously though, I know some of those topics sound like repetition, like, yea, I know we already have a wax forum and a gear forum, but racing stuff is much different....

I am imagining the gear/waxing forum like this:

At the Masters Nationals this year at Sunday River, they had a wax room set up in the hotel, common practice..and every night that would be full of racers and discussion (and sometimes beer.) ....what are YOU using tomorrow, do you find that this tool makes things easier...what kind of vices are best...etc.
we borrowed tools and shared wax secrets with people we never met before.

There was alot of camraderie, and some closely guarded secrets, but the whole tuning thing was an art form to most. it was a great atmosphere, and It would be nice to capture that type of wax room atmosphere in a forum. (without having to breathe in all those flourocarbons...)

and info and reviews on racing camps etc. would be a great help. they are an investment and it would be good to have others opine on those they have attended.

and info like Bode being at Attitash this weekend, Atomic and Jones purchased 1500 tickets for the day after the resort closed, but from what I hear they didn't fill up...there was a nastar course you could run and see your time against him (Why would you do that to yourself?) and he gave tips for the kids that day and the day before at Bretton Woods. (Of course, no one is interested in the good things that he does, but...) it would have been nice to know about that, I'd have been there and brought my kids....


my .02 anyway.
post #14 of 22
I have been asking for this for a while as well so here is my 0.02$....
bikeforums.net has a good road racing section were you can discuss technique, current races/events that you participate in and even some good athlete discussion type threads... We could add spoiler threads for the FIS/olympic races... They have a TDF sub-forum with all the spoilers but it may not be necessary for us to have a FIS/Olympics sub-forum..
post #15 of 22
I think it's well in order.

The two approaches that seem best to me:

The full-on (better) approach, pretty much exactly as suggested above:
Make a new top-level heading for "Racing" and put forums under it for
- "Technique" (or "Technique and Training")
- "Gear"
- "Race Fans" or "Results" (just so people understand it's not our results, but those WC racers and the like)
- Maybe: "Training Opportunities" (could be kind of thin: could go with Technique under the name "Technique and Training" or something)
- Maybe: "Juniors" (that might belong mixed in under the other headings, but I'm seeing it as a useful place for parents of juniors)

The more conservative approach:
Put a new "Racing" forum under the General heading.

If you try to create multiple new racing forums, broken out across the other general headings, it's going to get confusing, and stuff is going to wind up in whatever forum the poster's whim tells him to put it in. Plus, the racing forum under the Ski Training heading is likely to wind up us just another PSIA/PMTS/whatever-fest.
post #16 of 22
Epic Ski moderators have a habit of running racers off. I read Epic ski for two years and recommended Epic ski to a World Cup vet who was finishing a book.One Epic Ski moderator trolled the pro until he gave him a Time Out. Epic Ski moderators are intimidated by professional ski racers.Epic ski is run by a hand full of PSIA Level 2 Ski Instructors who do not want any professional input.
post #17 of 22
So this pro did nothing at all, no issues with his use of words, nothing that he did wrong?

Just checking, as you are saying this was a mod "trolling."
post #18 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by shaw
Epic Ski moderators have a habit of running racers off. I read Epic ski for two years and recommended Epic ski to a World Cup vet who was finishing a book.One Epic Ski moderator trolled the pro until he gave him a Time Out. Epic Ski moderators are intimidated by professional ski racers.Epic ski is run by a hand full of PSIA Level 2 Ski Instructors who do not want any professional input.
Given the length of time that you claim to have been here, it seems you know very little about who "runs" EpicSki. I am admittedly just a skier who happened to take a few cert exams. But, I don't run the place, and if you consider the various folks who are involved here and with EpicSki events, the claims of your posts wear thin.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
it would be great to get all of the racing chat centralized!
post #20 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by shaw
Epic Ski moderators have a habit of running racers off. I read Epic ski for two years and recommended Epic ski to a World Cup vet who was finishing a book.One Epic Ski moderator trolled the pro until he gave him a Time Out. Epic Ski moderators are intimidated by professional ski racers.Epic ski is run by a hand full of PSIA Level 2 Ski Instructors who do not want any professional input.
Don't feed the ill-informed troll.
post #21 of 22

shaw

See my comments in the other thread. You are way off on this one.

Racers ... there is one problem with them. They are usually too busy to post during the season.

"J" racers, academy or college .... it is a dawn to drop march from the start of the season .... in transit to or from training, gear issues and all the time trying to jockey the academic issues.
post #22 of 22
I don't think the primary audience/participants would be junior racers (for a number of reasons), though there'd likely be some, and good for that.

The larger constituencies would be:
Masters, beer league and Nastar racers
Former racers
Parent of junior racers
People who are interested in World Cup and other high-level racing
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